US Rangers

#1
Gentlemen, I have a question which is somewhat outside my area of expertise:

Could someone explain what a Ranger is (simply described as elite infantry on t'interweb, what ever that might be)? I understand, annocdotally, that there are Brits who are "Ranger qualified", is this possible (sounded unlikely to me) and if so what does it actually mean? Done a US course, served on attachment to a Ranger regiment? Please note that this is not on a Walt hunting mission or anything similar, simply a question that fell out of a conversation this morning.

From a quick internet search my understanding is that they seem to be akin to what we would term Commandos (Google/Wikipedia) and that there is a whole Ranger Regiment which seems to be some sort of light/air assualt infantry. I seem also to recall being told that they support SF and that our SFSG was modelled on them.
 
#2
B-C, way back when, a Brit Sapper went to the States and passed the Ranger course. Quite the lad in his time, bit of a rep. One of the RSMs of the Antrim Engineers.
 
#3

To add a bit in view of the question, the point of beginning for the Ranger Regiment is Ranger School, the successful completion of which authoriz(s)es the graduate to wear (if in the US Army and perhaps some other nations' forces) the "Ranger" tab. Those of us who attended from other services (including those from other nations whose regulations do not allow the wearing) are "merely" "Ranger qualified."
 
#5
To add a bit in view of the question, the point of beginning for the Ranger Regiment is Ranger School, the successful completion of which authoriz(s)es the graduate to wear (if in the US Army and perhaps some other nations' forces) the "Ranger" tab. Those of us who attended from other services (including those from other nations whose regulations do not allow the wearing) are "merely" "Ranger qualified."
From what you say and your user name, I take it this is a US Army course/qualification but one which USMC and other national armed forces personnel also attend/achieve. Sounds like the Ranger qualified Brit was not as far fetched as I it sounded. Cheers, curiosity satisfied.
 
#8
Tabs, Scrolls, you've lost me now...
I was taking you literally in terms of your plea for "anecdotal" information--Dogface is more expert on the details-listen to him not me on those aspects as I also get confused with the Army's myriad uniform "nuances." I often said when attending Army schools etc. that I would be a rich man if I had a sewing shop near the Army post as one could get rich due to all the patches, flashes, tabs, bars, etc. that are worn on their uniforms. Now I suppose having stock in the manufacturer of velcro would do the same. ;-)

Edited to add: I meant no disrespect whatever to my Army brothers--merely an anecdote reflecting the different (not better or worse) approaches/cultures to uniformity etc. and not any slight about the schools themselves either. The US Army runs some of the best specialist qualification training in the world bar none.
 
#10
Quite a few international students graduate from our schools, including Ranger School.
That is quite so. During my WOBC phase at FT Rucker AL I met a number of Colombians attending flight school (Rotary). No doubt they were getting tooled up for the battle against FARC.
 
#11
I wear the Ranger Tab and the Special Forces tab. The Ranger tab was awarded to me as a result of graduating as a member of a Ranger Airborne Company assigned to the 4th Infantry Division during the Korean War, We were the first Airborne Rangers and the first o be Rangers after the WW II's Ranger BN's. There were (8) Airborne Ranger Companies that fought in Korea. We also had a scroll, and wore the Ranger Tab over it.

Here is the Scroll. There are also scrolls with the Company Number on the 1 Through 15.
 

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#12
I wear the Ranger Tab and the Special Forces tab. The Ranger tab was awarded to me as a result of graduating as a member of a Ranger Airborne Company assigned to the 4th Infantry Division during the Korean War, We were the first Airborne Rangers and the first o be Rangers after the WW II's Ranger BN's. There were (8) Airborne Ranger Companies that fought in Korea. We also had a scroll, and wore the Ranger Tab over it.

Here is the Scroll. (There are also scrolls with the Company Number on the 1 Through 15.)
I did not iknow you were a Korean War vet-thanks for your service--I was a close friend of CMOH recipient from that war, the late Gen. Ray Davis USMC and have studied that war in great detail and never fail to be amazed at the operations conducted there, especially in such incredibly bad weather.
 
#13
Yeah, I'm a 'FOG!' I served with the 'Wolfhounds' 27th Infantry, 25th ID in Korea in 1951. I went into Special Forces in June of 1961, mostly to get back on 'Jump' status. My first jump with them :rmp: was a night equipment jump. The last time I jumped was in 1951. (Over ten Years between jumps.) :p
 
#14
I heard that--I had a lapse of a number of years in my jump career and on my first jump after returning to the teams, ended up in a tall pine tree on a moonless night much to the delight of my ever respectful team members.
 
#15
Trip, explain that the company scrolls no longer exist but are now part of the heritage and lineage so as not to confuse B-C.
There were Ranger Company Scrolls in the Vietnam era as well. They; however were included in the 'made-up' linage of the 75th Ranger Regiment. We were not included in the final linage of the Ranger Regiment, although before the re-write we were. Of course, all the Ranger BN.'s are Airborne qualified now.

Many who attend the Ranger School/Course and are awarded the Ranger Tab are not Airborne, nor are they required to be Airborne qualified. Many Rangers who wore the scroll and served in an Airborne Ranger Company and/or BN don't consider 'Tab' 'Leg' Rangers who never served in an Airborne Ranger Company or BN 'Real' Rangers. ;)
 
#17
I hear you too! My introduction back to jumping wasn't that bad. During my Ranger training on my first night jump, after jump school I spent the night in a 100 foot tree in Alabama. I dropped my helmet and never heard it hit the ground. So I decided to wait until daylight, rather then pulling my reserve and trying to slide down it. To many people wind-up inside there canopy, or getting their hands burned trying to slide down it without gloves. I also had a 'jump' rope, but I knew it would be to short.

They came looking for me the next day and used tree climbers to reach me, and set-up a rappel for me to use/ Looking at the distance to the ground I was sure glad I waited!!
 
#18
When we were all a little less busy in time gone by it was not uncommon for Para Reg to carryout exchanges with the Rangers as well as the usual trips to Fort Bragg etc.

The Brit equivalent to the 75th Rangers in both set up and role would be 1PARA SFSG although you could argue that Para Reg in its entirety is more in line with the 75th Ranger Regiment than the likes of the larger 82nd AB.

I can think of a couple of Para Reg officers and SNCO's of years gone by that have earnt their "Ranger Tabs" whilst on exchange postings. Although unlike Yank Jump wings you’re not allowed to wear them on your uniform.

There isn't really a direct Brit comparison for the course itself, a mix of the infantry brecon courses and P-Coy/AACC would maybe be the best way to describe it in Brit terms. Earning the "Ranger Tab" is quite a big deal in the US forces, Infantryman who want to progress upon higher would do well to earn it.

The Tabbed Ranger v Scrolled Ranger debate is quite a good way to start an argument amongst them, as is the Black beret v tan beret argument. The "old sweats" wore Black berets.

Oh and I wouldn't ever suggest to a member of the 75th Rangers that he is simply SF "support".
 
#19
From what you say and your user name, I take it this is a US Army course/qualification but one which USMC and other national armed forces personnel also attend/achieve. Sounds like the Ranger qualified Brit was not as far fetched as I it sounded. Cheers, curiosity satisfied.
An Iraqi graduated the US Ranger School in 2006.
Ranger school to graduate first Iraqi [Archive] - Small Wars Council. One can be a Member of the Ranger Regiment without being a "Schoolhouse" Ranger. Usually, it is the lowest ranking E-2 to E-4 who arent "Tabbed". It is a Must for NCO's Officers to be tabbed in the 75th's combat arms MOS's.

Ranger Tab:
Ranger Tab


Ranger Unit Scroll:
TIOH - Heraldry - 75th Ranger Regiment
 
#20
They came looking for me the next day and used tree climbers to reach me, and set-up a rappel for me to use/ Looking at the distance to the ground I was sure glad I waited!!
Trip - On behalf of myself, and I am sure other ARRSER's also, I am glad you waited too!!
 

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