US/Pakistan Nuclear weapon collaboration

#1
For a couple or more years the New York Times have been sitting on a story that they didn't publish because the Bush Whitehouse told them not to.
The existence of the story although not the story's subject was widely known to NYT. readers.

This was because their writers gagging to publish kept hinting at the story's existence.
Here it is - and it's a real babe of a story:


U.S. Secretly Aids Pakistan in Guarding Nuclear Arms

By DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: November 18, 2007

WASHINGTON, Nov. 17 — Over the past six years, the Bush administration has spent almost $100 million on a highly classified program to help Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s president, secure his country’s nuclear weapons, according to current and former senior administration officials.

But with the future of that country’s leadership in doubt, debate is intensifying about whether Washington has done enough to help protect the warheads and laboratories, and whether Pakistan’s reluctance to reveal critical details about its arsenal has undercut the effectiveness of the continuing security effort.

The aid, buried in secret portions of the federal budget, paid for the training of Pakistani personnel in the United States and the construction of a nuclear security training center in Pakistan, a facility that American officials say is nowhere near completion, even though it was supposed to be in operation this year.

A raft of equipment — from helicopters to night-vision goggles to nuclear detection equipment — was given to Pakistan to help secure its nuclear material, its warheads, and the laboratories that were the site of the worst known case of nuclear proliferation in the atomic age.

While American officials say that they believe the arsenal is safe at the moment, and that they take at face value Pakistani assurances that security is vastly improved, in many cases the Pakistani government has been reluctant to show American officials how or where the gear is actually used.

That is because the Pakistanis do not want to reveal the locations of their weapons or the amount or type of new bomb-grade fuel the country is now producing.

The American program was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when the Bush administration debated whether to share with Pakistan one of the crown jewels of American nuclear protection technology, known as “permissive action links,” or PALS, a system used to keep a weapon from detonating without proper codes and authorizations.

In the end, despite past federal aid to France and Russia on delicate points of nuclear security, the administration decided that it could not share the system with the Pakistanis because of legal restrictions.

In addition, the Pakistanis were suspicious that any American-made technology in their warheads could include a secret “kill switch,” enabling the Americans to turn off their weapons.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/washington/18nuke.html?hp
 
#2
How little they know of the New York Times and its fiercely independent editorial policy, who only their bedroom walls know?

Mrs Goodkurtz ma'am, can goodkurtz have some more pretzels and sodas please, he would ask himself but he knows the CIA monitor the shouted conversations from his bedroom to the hall...
 
#4
Can't say I'm surprised and, for once, I can't really fault them for it either.
 
#5
it will be a really stinky poo if Pakistan becomes an Islamic republic, Musharaff toppled by Talibans and Islamist extremist, with possession of Pakistani Nuclear arsenal, they may also decide to take on India which also have Nuclear weapons, to free their Muslim brothers from Hindu rule, particularly Kashmir, the Jihadist are not as worried as the Indians are, after all if they die blowing themselves up, 72 virgin will be waiting for them (allegedly).

worse, some of that Technology can be passed on to Iran to speed up their Nuclear program, in the cause of Jihad against infidels.

bit of a nightmare.
 
#6
semper said:
it will be a really stinky poo if Pakistan becomes an Islamic republic, Musharaff toppled by Talibans and Islamist extremist, with possession of Pakistani Nuclear arsenal, they may also decide to take on India which also have Nuclear weapons, to free their Muslim brothers from Hindu rule, particularly Kashmir, the Jihadist are not as worried as the Indians are, after all if they die blowing themselves up, 72 virgin will be waiting for them (allegedly).

worse, some of that Technology can be passed on to Iran to speed up their Nuclear program, in the cause of Jihad against infidels.

bit of a nightmare.
Trouble is Pandora's box has been open for a long time and you can only plan for what is in existence now. If the US didn't play with Pakistan, the potential for an Islamic state would increase.

Damned if you do and Damned if you don't.
 
#7
Cuddles:
How little they know of the New York Times and its fiercely independent editorial policy, who only their bedroom walls know?
Please, please don't tell me that you didn't know about Judith Miller. Her suspiciously close relationships with the White house and the Pentagon.
And please, please don't tell me that you didn't know that she was lying through her teeth about WMD and using the pages of the now compliant Grey Lady to shrill for Bush's war?
Its all out now and well known. The Times have even issued an apology of sorts about their coverage leading up to war

However, with regards sitting on this story that's another matter. No matter how independent or otherwise a journal maybe there are times, and this maybe one of them, where discretion is the better part of valor.
If they complied with the White House's request in order to not inflame certain parties and to help reduce the quantity of war then so be it.
 
#9
mr.fawlty said:
Pakistan is already an islamic state, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
in name my friend, Musharaff was trying to keep it all secular, its not a Theocracy, unlike Iran wish run by Clerics,tthe real organ grinder, the Iranian President is just the monkey.

if The Taliban wins, it will become a Theocracy and a nasty one at that, the only thing that will make Iran look nice by comparison.
 
#10
semper said:
it will be a really stinky poo if Pakistan becomes an Islamic republic, Musharaff toppled by Talibans and Islamist extremist, with possession of Pakistani Nuclear arsenal, they may also decide to take on India which also have Nuclear weapons, to free their Muslim brothers from Hindu rule, particularly Kashmir, the Jihadist are not as worried as the Indians are, after all if they die blowing themselves up, 72 virgin will be waiting for them (allegedly).

worse, some of that Technology can be passed on to Iran to speed up their Nuclear program, in the cause of Jihad against infidels.

bit of a nightmare.

Pakistan already "allegedly" passed nuclear know-how to north korea, Iran, and Syria in the 80's.
 

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