US Navy Woes

Discussion in 'Strategic Defence & Spending Review (SDSR)' started by jim30, Aug 4, 2011.

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  1. Posted here to tie into the wider RN debate - if the USN is having these problems now, how are we going to cope in future? It gives you an idea of how bad things have got on the other side of the pond. Meanwhile the old Arleigh Burkes (first concieved of in the 1980s) are due to remain in series production until 2040, and probably in service till nearly 2080. Thats nearly 100 years - or akin to us having just paid off the last pre-dreadnought design just 5 years ago...

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  2. Talk with any USN Officer above Lt and they will all agree while looking enviously at the RN, we need them- while pointing at our Frigates.

    Problem is, as a genuine Blue Water Navy, the USN has never got its head around small ships and they just don't 'do' them.

    Type 26 would actually fit the USN's need rather well, it's a Littoral Combat Ship that will actually be able to littoral and combat because, we've always by geography been forced to littoral. But buying that design would be political no no.

    Sneering name for the LCS?
    The Littoral Combat Speedboat - they hate it and wish it would die.

    Another interesting thing…

    Talking with my tame USN SWO the other day, and the subject of Burkes, LCS and T45 came up.

    While we regard the T45 as a procurement disaster, took too long, cost too much, the USN is fascinated by the thing.
    They're in awe at how we managed to design, build and got a high end surface combatant into service inside 10 years and for less than a $1 Billion a pop.
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  3. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    The T45, formally known as Project Horizon, formally known as F2000, formally known as the Anglo-French Frigate Programme, was due in service in 1996 to replace the T42's that would be obsolete and incapable by then. T45 has effectively been 20 years in gestation through the various programmes.

    And the Aleigh Burkes that are being launched now are significantly different to USS Arleigh Burke as launched and accepted in 1992.
  4. Assorted paper ships that differed significantly from what we ended up with. The clock started running for real in 1999.