US Navy to investigate lewd videos shown on carrier

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  1. Navy to investigate lewd videos shown on carrier - Yahoo! News


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    Skipper Mastermind Behind Raunchy Navy Videos

    Classic stuff! Good to hear that (at least some people in) the US Navy still have a sense of humour!
     
  2. DoD doesnt and neither does Mullens, Cpt. Honor is done, finito, this will be Tailhook 2, but it was funny, too bad the Military is becoming Pussified by upper management.
     
  3. Gawd almighty............when I was a guest on board the Enterprise back in 1976 the only thing showing on the innumerable closed circuit tv screens around the ship were interminable shots of jets landing.............porn of any kind would have to be an improvement.
     
  4. Wordsmith

    Wordsmith LE Book Reviewer

    One quality required of any senior officer is good judgement. Broadcasting these videos seems to show anything but.

    And as the Yahoo article quotes a navy spokesman as saying:

    there's going to be a lot of careers going up in smoke (including anyone higher up in the chain of command who knew this was going on).

    Wordsmith
     
  5. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    How did this weird ever get promoted to Cdr in the first place? Roll on his 'fitness reports' being wikileaked.
     
  6. Is it normal for a pilot to then become ship's Captain in the USN? As it's my understanding that it can't happen in the RN due to being different career lines.
     
  7. Bouillabaisse

    Bouillabaisse LE Book Reviewer

    All either started as Executive branch, or whatever its called these days, and became pilots or transfered to the branch. The USN take the view that the best person to run a carrier is a guy who flies. They don't worry about the seamanship side of the business overly much as they have specialists for that.
     
  8. Shedloads.

    Prince Andrew (albeit a MWV).

    The USN once had a rule that only an aviator could command a carrier although I believe it has changed now. Last US carrier Captain I met (recent enough for me to still be suffering a hangover) was (is) a pilot.
     
  9. There are (were?) 2 ways to become a pilot in the RN - just like in the Army. You could join up as specialist aircrew or you could join up as a generic Exec branch and then specialise a bit later in your career. Either way, you could then pop out and go back to generic Exec branch and command warships.

    To add to the examples: Rear Admiral Ian Henderson CB CBE, who was Flag Officer Naval Aviation, commanded HMS LONDON during OP GRANBY.
     
  10. ... and another pilot, Commodore Chris Craig CB DSC, embarked in HMS LONDON as Senior Naval Officer Middle East (SNOME) during Op GRANBY, had commanded HMS ALACRITY during Op CORPORATE and subsequently wrote Call for Fire about his experiences.
     
  11. Pretty much standard procedure here. The cat/hook guys get CVN's, Helo guys get LHA's etc. Command of a big deck makes it quite likely flag rank will follow. This is an example of a captain of a CV/CVN who will not however.
     
  12. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    RN practice used to be that General List seaman officers were sub-specialised in aviation, submarines, gunnery etc after obtaining their watchkeeping ticket and 2nd stripe, but were rotated through non-specialist appointments as XOs and COs so as to work up to bigger and bigger ships as promotion was earned (which of course was not for all). Generally the senior active flying appt would be as Lt Cdr as CO of a squadron (but I seem to remember the Phantoms had a Cdr). Cdr(Air) in a carrier of course had to be an aviator. Supplementary List (short service) aviators, in my day entered as 'AVCADs', could apply to transfer to GL. AEs (Air Engineers) qualified as aircrew and generally did a tour in a squadron before disappearing into the general mass of plumbers.

    So your bright, successful aviator (think Caspar John who became 1SL) would probably have had command of a minesweeper, a frigate, a frigate as Captain(F) and a carrier with appts as XO of a frigate and Cdr (2 i/c) of a big ship in between. Not all COs of air stns were aviators, eg Joe Bartosik as CO of Culdrose, it being just as important to grow 'air experience' in non-aviators as to groom aviators for the wider world.


    Edited to add: for a Captain, Royal Navy, second cousin to God, to be in the sort of sorry position this American clown is in, is impossible.
     
  13. Reminds me of the classic scene from Under Siege. Gary Busey, still dressed in drag after shooting the Captain and helping Tommy Lee Jones take over the ship, reads his own fitness report. In which the late Captain recommends Busey undergoes psychological evaluation...

    Busey, "Do I look like I need psychological evaluation to you?!"

    Jones, "Not at all."
     
  14. One can only imagine the dollar investment in this officer over his career that is now lost and while he deserved some discipline as determined by a fair investigation, this was a "PC" lynching because of pressure like this: Capt. Owen Honors Relieved Of Duty As Navy Investigates Anti-Gay Videos | On Top Magazine :: Gay & Lesbian News, Entertainment, Commentary & Travel

    Being relieved of command (and terminating his career) may be appropriate for driving the ship onto a reef but even then such things do not occur without a formal board of inquiry. I see the very heavy hand of the Secretary of Defense and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in all this as they were long ago co-opted by the homosexual lobby.

    Given my experience with my nation's military, it will seek out and destroy anyone who does not "embrace" the new homosexual agenda.