US Military spends 41m on Viagra. (While Donald vetoes transgenders).

#1
I saw an article in my local newspaper and followed the link out of idle curiosity,and while I originally intended to post in the Naafi to poke a bit of fun at the Septics, I read the article and decided it was better here.

The questions it raises in my mind are various but;

How far does the MoD go down the same path for problems arising from military service/deployments?
(And how many may be hiding problems that they perhaps don't want to admit?)

How effective are they and how far just palliative and therefore hiding the problem rather than solving?


Certainly puts Donalds cost-saving transgender initiative into the shade.

DoD spends $84M a year on Viagra, similar meds



According to data from the Defense Health Agency, DoD actually spent $41.6 million on Viagra — and $84.24 million total on erectile dysfunction prescriptions — last year.

And since 2011, the tab for drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra totals $294 million — the equivalent of nearly four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.


It's not just serving members though

DHA and its pharmacy benefits manager Express Scripts run a vast organization that dispenses medications through military hospitals and clinics, by mail and at retail stores nationwide via multiple contracts.

And according to DHA, military beneficiaries, including active-duty personnel, retirees and eligible family members, filled nearly 1.18 million prescriptions for ED medications through this system in 2014.




Researchers at the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center found that the overall incidence rate of ED climbed from 5.8 cases per 1,000 person-years in 2004 to 12.6 cases in 2013, or more than 1 percent of the total population.

According to the report, 100,248 cases of ED were diagnosed among active-duty members from 2004 to 2013.

More than half of those were classified as "psychogenic," meaning the dysfunction was related to psychiatric rather than physical causes.

A number of factors can contribute to ED, from mental health conditions like post-traumatic stress disorder, depression and anxiety, to medications for treating physical and mental conditions as well as injuries, illness and aging.
 
#3
It's not really about transgenders, just making a comparison about costs.
 
#4
IED injuries to genitals is also a reason for the spike in use according to a Medic I know.
 
#5
One thing about Viagra, it lowers blood pressure. If you're taking any other kind of medication that does that as well, be very careful indeed. A friend of mine died last year from exactly that, went from talking to unconscious and unresponsive in less than 15 seconds apparently.
 
#6
100,248 cases of ED were diagnosed among active-duty members from 2004 to 2013.

More than half of those were classified as "psychogenic," meaning the dysfunction was related to psychiatric rather than physical causes.
Having seen some of the Septic's wives, I can't say I'm surprised.
 
#8
Why does the US military buy so much Viagra? - BBC News


"It is true that some of the erectile dysfunction medication went to active-duty personnel.
But the vast majority went to other groups eligible, including millions of military retirees and their family members. In fact, around 10 million people in total are estimated to be covered by the Pentagon's healthcare system, which cost $52bn in 2012.
It is well known that erectile dysfunction is more common among older men - which would explain a hefty bill for retired service members.
In fact, less than 10% of the prescriptions were for active duty personnel, according to the Military Times."
 
#10
US veterans get free healthcare courtesy of DoD - old blokes can't get wood - nothing to see here, move on.
 
#11
US veterans get free healthcare courtesy of DoD - old blokes can't get wood - nothing to see here, move on.
It's not exactly that though, while only less than ten per cent of prescriptions were for serving members, no pun intended, it isn't specific as to how many retirees were recently served.

Also a point is that while viagra is the most popular drug, the range prescribed were often for psychiatric causes. If those were for service resulting problems then that's quite a high bill.

I'm also asking how far the British Army go down this road, as we seem to copy a lot of what the yanks do.
 

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#12
It's not exactly that though, while only less than ten per cent of prescriptions were for serving members, no pun intended, it isn't specific as to how many retirees were recently served.

Also a point is that while viagra is the most popular drug, the range prescribed were often for psychiatric causes. If those were for service resulting problems then that's quite a high bill.

I'm also asking how far the British Army go down this road, as we seem to copy a lot of what the yanks do.
I suspect it'll be relatively little because the majority of the cost comes from the Pentagon paying for retiree healthcare, while we have the NHS for that.
 
#15
I suspect it'll be relatively little because the majority of the cost comes from the Pentagon paying for retiree healthcare, while we have the NHS for that.
It's a good point to mention the NHS... because the logic of the argument being extended here is that because the NHS pays for Viagra, it should give free boob jobs or sex changes to anyone who wants one, on demand, too.

I happen to think that it shouldn't
 
#16
The NHS generally doesn't pay for Viagra unless there is another medical condition that compounds the problem, Sildenafil is available as Private Prescription for the general cause (Tesco <£3 for eight)
 
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#17
I saw an article in my local newspaper and followed the link out of idle curiosity,and while I originally intended to post in the Naafi to poke a bit of fun at the Septics, I read the article and decided it was better here.

The questions it raises in my mind are various but;

How far does the MoD go down the same path for problems arising from military service/deployments?
(And how many may be hiding problems that they perhaps don't want to admit?)

How effective are they and how far just palliative and therefore hiding the problem rather than solving?


Certainly puts Donalds cost-saving transgender initiative into the shade.

DoD spends $84M a year on Viagra, similar meds



According to data from the Defense Health Agency, DoD actually spent $41.6 million on Viagra — and $84.24 million total on erectile dysfunction prescriptions — last year.

And since 2011, the tab for drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra totals $294 million — the equivalent of nearly four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.


It's not just serving members though

DHA and its pharmacy benefits manager Express Scripts run a vast organization that dispenses medications through military hospitals and clinics, by mail and at retail stores nationwide via multiple contracts.



And according to DHA, military beneficiaries, including active-duty personnel, retirees and eligible family members, filled nearly 1.18 million prescriptions for ED medications through this system in 2014.


Researchers at the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center found that the overall incidence rate of ED climbed from 5.8 cases per 1,000 person-years in 2004 to 12.6 cases in 2013, or more than 1 percent of the total population.

According to the report, 100,248 cases of ED were diagnosed among active-duty members from 2004 to 2013.

More than half of those were classified as "psychogenic," meaning the dysfunction was related to psychiatric rather than physical causes.

A number of factors can contribute to ED, from mental health conditions like post-traumatic stress disorder, depression and anxiety, to medications for treating physical and mental conditions as well as injuries, illness and aging.
Riiiiiiiiight! So....... Does Donald T. Rump's edict mean that US ex servicemen (and wimmin of course, since, although wimmin don't suffer from ED - unless you count clit dysfunction, but not being a doctor .... Anyway I read somewhere that wimmin are not affected by Viagra and similar drugs, but non the less we have to be all embracing and all inclusive in this modern age of equality etc, blah) will not be allowed prescriptions for nob erecting drugs if they intend to pump up transgenders, chix with dix, sailors, marines and similarly afflicted sections of the populations with sexual normalities?
 
#18
You read his mind if you can, who knows with him? But that's not what I'm interested in. As an ex-pat I'm interested in how far the MOD/NHS are helping out (ex)servicemen on the same lines if they in fact do.
In fact how much help they get in general TBH.

The general drift I am picking up, and have picked up from these pages, seems to total not far above zero, especially for ex-servicemen. I imagine most of the help will be in-unit, as far as I can glean from here.

Ready to be corrected by all means.
 
#19
For what its worth, of the trade names Viagra, and Cialis, the former has been out of patent in Europe for a while, and the latter will be in November.

I believe that the makers of Viagra managed to get the patent time extended in the USA, probably using the same means as that which stops other things from running out of patent or copyright in the 'Land of the Free'. And it would explain the high costs to a degree.

Apart from that, it seem to be the case that regular 'Recreational' (cough) use of these drugs tends to increase the chances of a stoppage when wanting to work unaided. Which makes me wonder, if a chap was having to use the drugs from necessity, would their very use ensure their continued use, and thus a nice little earner ?
 
#20
In fact, less than 10% of the prescriptions were for active duty personnel, according to the Military Times.
Looks like there's a swamp needs draining right there.

A good dose of private healthcare is obviously what they need.
 

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