US/Mexican Border.

#1
Drudge on 16 March2009 had a report that Obama was "thinking" of using troops to defend the US border from the chaos in Mexico.

It's a big border, where will the US find troops from? Would you like some British troops to defend San Diego, or Reno?
 
#3
What "chaos in Mexico?". If you are referring to protecting the border in a law-enforcement way then the Posse Comitatus Act would make that a no-goer.
 
#4
All it will require is troops deployed at points near cities. UAV's can patrol long stretches of territory and coordinate with small and mobile quick reaction units. Minefields and remote controlled machine guns posts with cameras mounted can be set up in open areas along the border and any gaps can be used to set up fences to funnel any remaining illegals deep into the desert where they won't have much chance of survival.
 
#5
Ron mate they are people wanting to have a better life not the feckin taliban.
 
#6
ronnie12398 said:
All it will require is troops deployed at points near cities. UAV's can patrol long stretches of territory and coordinate with small and mobile quick reaction units. Minefields and remote controlled machine guns posts with cameras mounted can be set up in open areas along the border and any gaps can be used to set up fences to funnel any remaining illegals deep into the desert where they won't have much chance of survival.
Were you an East German border guard in a previous life?
 
#8
ronnie12398 said:
instinct said:
Ron mate they are people wanting to have a better life not the feckin taliban.
Sorry, no more room left at the inn. :roll:
That's all right. Texas has loads of stables!
 

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#9
ronnie12398 said:
instinct said:
Ron mate they are people wanting to have a better life not the feckin taliban.
Sorry, no more room left at the inn. :roll:
In a country where hundreds (if not far, far, more) of illegals are crossing that porous border everyday and Spanish is the official second language, that doesn't really ring true. And anyway, the whole point of the U.S. is that it is a country formed on migrancy and mass immigration from its inception onwards. I would be unsurprised if my assumption that is the most migrated to place on the face of the planet is true.

A big fcuk off wall a la Israel/West bank might be the answer, but it would cost far too much money for such a large border.
 
#10
Less to do with illegal immigration and more to do with the fact that there is almost open warfare down there between the police and army and the drug cartels.

Drugs are going north over the border and guns are going south fueling the whole thing. There are also recent reports of murders taking place in the US linked to the drug gangs.

It would not be against Posse Comitatus to use the National Guard in support of the Police.
 
#11
instinct said:
Ron mate they are people wanting to have a better life not the feckin taliban.
You are absolutely correct, instinct, and US has been built upon immigration - legal and non-legal for its history. WOP - a term used against Italian immigrants - meant 'without papers.'

What is going on here is covert racism, though most Americans will deny it. Those coming across the border are mostly of mixed race, and that is a fact.
 
#12
LEGZ30 said:
It would not be against Posse Comitatus to use the National Guard in support of the Police.
Taking people away from there jobs is going to realy hurt the economy. Plus the NG is having enough trouble with retention from iraq and afghanistan.
 
#13
Str8Bloke said:
Drudge on 16 March2009 had a report that Obama was "thinking" of using troops to defend the US border from the chaos in Mexico.

It's a big border, where will the US find troops from? Would you like some British troops to defend San Diego, or Reno?
They have plentry of troops, over a million one understands so defending it with numerous checkpoints etc would be piss.

I wouldn't get involved in any of that shite either.

Nor will it ever happen.
 
#14
instinct said:
LEGZ30 said:
It would not be against Posse Comitatus to use the National Guard in support of the Police.
Taking people away from there jobs is going to realy hurt the economy. Plus the NG is having enough trouble with retention from iraq and afghanistan.
Very true, but if the violence did spill across the border the results could be even worse.

The situation is making politicians down in Texas very nervous already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7_GIbvTE3A . You will have to bear with the crap interview technique to hear what the Senator is actually saying.
 
#15
US forces (Well Corps of Engineers) have been deployed already. They remade the beach defences in San Diego back in the '90s.

A defence is only as good as the men actively defending it.

Even Obama is getting scared at the way Mexico's going. Migrant criminals are killing people as far north as Canada. Including more murderers by Mexicans in the US than happened on 9/11.

There's a saying, "Third World Migrants create Third World countries."
 
#16
Str8Bloke said:
There's a saying, "Third World Migrants create Third World countries."
bet thats a popular and often heard mantra at your local BNP meetings.
 
#17
well done, retard. You got someone to type for you. Now stop shagging your sister and say what you really mean.
 
#19
ronnie12398 said:
Oh goody, we're getting even more of Mexico's most upstanding citizens looking for "a better life". Not just druggies, gangsters, smugglers, kidnappers and assorted murderers, but rapists and child molesters too. :x

http://svherald.com/articles/2009/03/17/news/doc49bf4ff7e3b3e357367116.txt
Nothing happens in a vacuum. The reason many immigrants come north is that they get work - corporations hire them, as they are cheaper labour than their US counterparts (not only in terms of wages but benefits - of which there are none). If US really wants to stop the influx, the corporations that hire them need to have heavy fines levied against them. If the US is serious about immigration reform, of course.
 
#20
roadster280 said:
As a legal immigrant to the US, this whole thing grips my $hit. The immigration process was the most expensive, convoluted, worry-ridden process I have ever gone through. I've been divorced twice, a walk in the park in comparison.

Yet I'm happy to pay bugger all to have my house painted by a crew of Mexicans, it's not my concern whether they are legal or not. At work, our offices are competently cleaned, the ground maintained, all by Mexicans.

There needs to be a system to make them legal. Even if it means we pay a few percent more. But I'm fcuked if I'll support a blanket amnesty or some watering down of the strict immigration criteria.

Something like the gast-arbeiter program the Germans have would do fine.
But how would it be implemented with so many sneaking over the border daily? In other words, how do you implement border control? The only way to make it work would be to punish the companies that hire those without the documentation - which could already be done.
 

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