US Marines to all have suppressors

[Lifeboat21]

Well apparently you can get a silencer for .50 cal rifles. Target shooters use them to reduce the sound to a slightly more comfortable level.
If the USMC want I can tell them how to silence their grenade launchers as well.

Believe it or not, the Germans have suppressors for 155mm artillery.

So as not to upset the neighbours.

 

[Fiona_TG]

Well apparently you can get a silencer for .50 cal rifles. Target shooters use them to reduce the sound to a slightly more comfortable level.
If the USMC want I can tell them how to silence their grenade launchers as well.

The really impressive trick would be to silence the grenades so that instead of going bang they go pop.

 

[Lifeboat21]

The really impressive trick would be to silence the grenades so that instead of going bang they go pop.

Hush a bombs...

google rocky and bulwinkle.

 

[Onetap]

Why don’t they design a new barrel for the M4 incorporating sound suppression?

Question for those firearms guru’s, do suppressors come at the expense of velocity or no significant difference as they are on the end of the normal barrel?

No difference, muzzle velocity is the same, the sights will still work.
It's only a space for the gas to expand into and slow down to sub-sonic speeds, significantly reducing the 'thud' of the weapon firing. The super-sonic bullet still makes a 'crack' sound.
Car silencers work the same way, in fact they were invented by the same man, Hiram Maxim's son.
Have you ever heard a car with no silencer? It's that sort of difference.

 

[Lifeboat21]

You can unscrew it if necessary for cleaning etc (on a rifle, not sure about a tank)

I think TOPs was referring to the suggestion the silencer and barrel could be combined.

 

[dogmeat]

Silent But Deadly: Marines See Biggest Deployment Of Rifle Suppressors Ever | ZeroHedge

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The U.S. Marine Corps is fielding tens of thousands of suppressors designed for automatic rifles as a move to reduce noise signature on the modern battlefield, according to Military.com.

Marine Corps Systems Command (MCSC) is in the process of fielding the first of the suppressors designed for M4 and M4A1 carbines and M27 infantry automatic rifles to Marines stationed at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. By 2023, the service expects as many as 30,000 suppressors will be fielded, which is the largest deployment of suppressors by any military.

Suppressors on automatic rifles firing a 5.56mm round will reduce noise by 30-40 decibels. This means each shot will sound more like a 22 caliber.

Reducing noise adds stealth to Marines, making it harder for the enemy to locate them.

Suppressors help decrease their "audible and visual signature, making it more difficult for the enemy to ascertain their location," Chief Warrant Officer 4 David Tomlinson, MCSC's infantry weapons officer, said in the release.

Besides reducing sound, suppressors also eliminate muzzle flash, which adds to the stealthiness of Marines.

Does the SA80's action function correctly with a suppressor?

Let's ask The Internet Magic 8-Ball:

Conclusive proof, I'd say.

Case closed.

 

[Fang_Farrier]

Given the ever increasing tide ofHearing Loss litigation, the most important bit probably this:

"Marine officials also hope the suppressors will reduce hearing damage suffered by infantry Marines in combat."

The issued 3M "Combat Earplugs" also subject to litigation, claims of defective design and inadequate instruction on proper use.

Prevalence of Tinnitus and Noise-induced Hearing Loss in Dentists

They're not the only ones

 

[theoriginalphantom]

I think TOPs was referring to the suggestion the silencer and barrel could be combined.

And you'd be right

 

[Listy]

The really impressive trick would be to silence the grenades so that instead of going bang they go pop.

Well I know how to make a silenced grenade launcher, without sticking a giant moderator on the end of the barrel. Of course, as you say the boom at the other end is the problem.

 

[jrwlynch]

Can't wait to see the suppressor fitted to the M777...

 

[Fang_Farrier]

Well I know how to make a silenced grenade launcher, without sticking a giant moderator on the end of the barrel. Of course, as you say the boom at the other end is the problem.

Cross bow? Such as big Joe?

Little Joe was a bit Frankenstein

 

[tgo]

Why don’t they design a new barrel for the M4 incorporating sound suppression?

Question for those firearms guru’s, do suppressors come at the expense of velocity or no significant difference as they are on the end of the normal barrel?

Bullets fired through suppressors are generally subsonic to avoid the 'crack' of the bullet breaking the sound barrier, so they'll be a bit slower coming out of the barrel, maybe get more bullet drop over long ranges due to slower speed, probably not a big issue for the shortish ranges these types of long are used at though.

 

[Spanks]

Dentists Tinnitus etc

They're not the only ones

Yeah but Dentists aren't armed to the teeth............

 

[Listy]

Cross bow? Such as big Joe?

Little Joe was a bit Frankenstein
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Nahh, one of the few (possibly one of only two?) advantages that spigot weapons have over conventional arms is you can silence them with almost no penalty. It's almost pre-built in if you will.

 

[tgo]

I'd never heard of Little Joe so was curious enough to look it up.

The 'Little Joe' Crossbow, Weapon of the OSS

On October 27, 1942, the U.S. Office of Strategic Services, the nation’s wartime intelligence agency, asked the National Defense Research Committee to

www.historynet.com

 

[Bubbles_Barker]

Bullets fired through suppressors are generally subsonic to avoid the 'crack' of the bullet breaking the sound barrier, so they'll be a bit slower coming out of the barrel, maybe get more bullet drop over long ranges due to slower speed, probably not a big issue for the shortish ranges these types of long are used at though.

In modern suppressors if there is any drop in MV at all it is very small. Felt recoil is also reduced. Suppressors do wear relatively quickly though I think.

 

[Blogg]

The truth will eventually emerge

 

[Onetap]

Bullets fired through suppressors are generally subsonic to avoid the 'crack' of the bullet breaking the sound barrier, so they'll be a bit slower coming out of the barrel, maybe get more bullet drop over long ranges due to slower speed, probably not a big issue for the shortish ranges these types of long are used at though.

That's a different can of worms. Suppressed/silenced pistol calibre weapons (DeLisle, Welrod, Mk5 Sterling, Sten MkII(S) & Mk VI) usually use sub-sonic ammunition to avoid the crack. The Sterling & Sten had drilled barrels to vent some of the gas and so make standard 9mm ammo sub-sonic. The pistol's MV is usually close to, or less than, the speed of sound anyway, it doesn't make a lot of difference.

The rear sight for the Mk5 Sterling looked similar (other than the bunch of holes around the rearsight aperture) but was different to the standard Mk4 SMG sight because of the differences in muzzle velocity.

You just can't avoid the crack with rifle ammunition, you can only reduce the noise caused by gas being released from the weapon on firing. It makes the firer harder to find and reduces hearing damage.

 

[Maalox]

As troops exposed to brine, are the Royal Marines still being equipped with the corrosion-prone SA80?


The performance of even the A3 with a suppressor is said to be marginal

 

[DAS]

Bayonets?

Paracord