US Iraq Troop survey

#1
Recent survey of US troops in Iraq.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075

Seems that most want to leave within the year. No surprise there.

20% don't object to the use of internationally banned weapons. :roll:

85% said the U.S. mission is mainly “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks.

Either a significant number of US troops are misinformed, or I am!

PB
 
#2
Really how can 85% really think that the reason for the war in iraq is “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks" someone obviously got the memos mixed up!
 
#3
55% said it is not appropriate or standard military conduct to use harsh and threatening methods against insurgent prisoners in order to gain information of military value.
So 45% think it is.....

Merkator - if you are watching, what say you??. For the remainder connect to Israel has demanded a change in British law and have a look at a discussion on international legal implications
 
#4
lets face it. the main reason saddam was toppled was so boy bush could be seen doing something to 'protect america' and to appease the repuke (republican) blood lust for vengence over 9/11,
and getting the US oil corporates control of the Iraq black stuff that they had been after for years was a nice bonus too.

when bush said 'Mission Accomplished' he ment his re-election, 'Four More Years'.
 
#5
side_drummer said:
Really how can 85% really think that the reason for the war in iraq is “to retaliate for Saddam’s role in the 9-11 attacks" someone obviously got the memos mixed up!
.. I think this statistic is very frightening...

Unbelieveable ignorance..., I naively believed that the US service personnel serving in Iraq, understood why they were really there... 9/11 was a smoke screen!!
 
#7
It's not just the troops. It seems to be pretty much accepted as fact in right-wing circles in the US that Saddam had definite links to Al Qaeda, and by extension had a role in the attacks.
I've yet to see any non-American source that supports these claims. For example, one article I read recently (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/WThomasSmithJr/2006/01/16/182446.html) quotes a report that Bin Laden met with Iraqi intelligence in '94-'95 and asked for support. There is no evidence that such support was given. However, the writer spots a serious flaw: There is no evidence that support was NOT given. Aha. Nevertheless, he goes on to mention that further requests for support were made in the years after. Proof positive for him is the training camps that US troops raided - after the invasion - and his US intelligence and army sources that say that there is 'no question' that Saddam was doing all this. So there you go. Fact. Just like the WMDs.
 
#8
DrStealth said:
lets face it. the main reason saddam was toppled was so boy bush could be seen doing something to 'protect america' and to appease the repuke (republican) blood lust for vengence over 9/11,
and getting the US oil corporates control of the Iraq black stuff that they had been after for years was a nice bonus too.

when bush said 'Mission Accomplished' he ment his re-election, 'Four More Years'.
Infact, the whole point of the invasion of Iraq was the re-instatement of the American foreign policy known as the 'twin pillars'.

W told me personaly, so it must be right :D
 
#9
Agent_Smith said:
DrStealth said:
lets face it. the main reason saddam was toppled was so boy bush could be seen doing something to 'protect america' and to appease the repuke (republican) blood lust for vengence over 9/11,
and getting the US oil corporates control of the Iraq black stuff that they had been after for years was a nice bonus too.

when bush said 'Mission Accomplished' he ment his re-election, 'Four More Years'.
Infact, the whole point of the invasion of Iraq was the re-instatement of the American foreign policy known as the 'twin pillars'.

W told me personaly, so it must be right :D
:lol: :lol:Agent_Smith...I could'nt of said it better myself,
America's version of revenge is sweet maybe? :evil: with some politics thrown in....ohhh and the oil of course.
DRSteealth-'boy bush' is not a very liked boy in America right now, :!: (although hes in india) 8O ,they dont like him either do they?

ask an american....he'll tell ya he agrees with the british :p :p
 
#10
The poll is bogus. They only polled 900 some odd soldiers and wont reveal more info about how they did the poll. Zogby is a democratic pollster. My guess is that they polled the REMF's lounging about Camp Victory.
 
#11
Scary because we all know, that OIL is the main reason to be anywhere!

9/11 was a very comfortable way of explaining many issues that covered the Bush administrations failures!
 
#12
tomahawk6 said:
The poll is bogus. They only polled 900 some odd soldiers and wont reveal more info about how they did the poll. Zogby is a democratic pollster. My guess is that they polled the REMF's lounging about Camp Victory.
1. WTF do you know about polling?
2. You haven't bothered to pay $20 to find out what methodology they used.

Hence, any critique you have regarding the survey is nothing more than a hodgepodge of unwarranted assumptions.

The numbers are certainly worrying. As it stands though, I'll reserve judgement until I get hold of the study.
 
#13
Tooldtodieyoung said:
.. I think this statistic is very frightening...

Unbelieveable ignorance..., I naively believed that the US service personnel serving in Iraq, understood why they were really there... 9/11 was a smoke screen!!
How is that different from Brits, French and Germans lapping up conspiracy theories on 911 that made this a bestseller in Europe?
 
#15
Virgil said:
Tooldtodieyoung said:
.. I think this statistic is very frightening...

Unbelieveable ignorance..., I naively believed that the US service personnel serving in Iraq, understood why they were really there... 9/11 was a smoke screen!!
How is that different from Brits, French and Germans lapping up conspiracy theories on 911 that made this a bestseller in Europe?
I'd be rather surprised if 85% of british troops believed the 911 conspiracy theories.
 
#16
Virgil said:
Tooldtodieyoung said:
.. I think this statistic is very frightening...

Unbelieveable ignorance..., I naively believed that the US service personnel serving in Iraq, understood why they were really there... 9/11 was a smoke screen!!
How is that different from Brits, French and Germans lapping up conspiracy theories on 911 that made this a bestseller in Europe?
Comedy value?

We love ourselves some crazies...
 
#17
crabtastic said:
tomahawk6 said:
The poll is bogus. They only polled 900 some odd soldiers and wont reveal more info about how they did the poll. Zogby is a democratic pollster. My guess is that they polled the REMF's lounging about Camp Victory.
1. WTF do you know about polling?
2. You haven't bothered to pay $20 to find out what methodology they used.

Hence, any critique you have regarding the survey is nothing more than a hodgepodge of unwarranted assumptions.

The numbers are certainly worrying. As it stands though, I'll reserve judgement until I get hold of the study.
Clearly an example of crab's fuzzy logic. Zogby has refused to reveal its methodology which in itself makes the poll supect. Of all the posters here I find you to be the most offensive. You cannot make an argument without making personal attacks. This forum is not the naafi. I have ignored your rude comments including your offensive pm's. Not anymore.
 
#18
tomahawk6 said:
crabtastic said:
tomahawk6 said:
The poll is bogus. They only polled 900 some odd soldiers and wont reveal more info about how they did the poll. Zogby is a democratic pollster. My guess is that they polled the REMF's lounging about Camp Victory.
1. WTF do you know about polling?
2. You haven't bothered to pay $20 to find out what methodology they used.

Hence, any critique you have regarding the survey is nothing more than a hodgepodge of unwarranted assumptions.

The numbers are certainly worrying. As it stands though, I'll reserve judgement until I get hold of the study.
Clearly an example of crab's fuzzy logic. Zogby has refused to reveal its methodology which in itself makes the poll supect. Of all the posters here I find you to be the most offensive. You cannot make an argument without making personal attacks. This forum is not the naafi. I have ignored your rude comments including your offensive pm's. Not anymore.
T6 - Rise above it. He has a point though: just because Zogby does not reveal its methodology in the press release does not make the poll suspect. If you look at the LeMoyne College press release, you'll find that they refer to face-to-face interviews, and that the margin of error is ±3.3% (large because of the relatively small population size). Locations and names are withheld for "security reasons". It is common practice. if you want a poll to be honest, for the poll to keep names confidential.

PB
 
#19
We have had some suspect polls lately from Zogby and CBS. A poll can be easily skewed by where you take your sample's. In the past Zogby has polled a majority of democrat voters with a smattering of independent and republican voters. Rarely are the polls truely represenative. Another common technique is to phrase a question to get the answer the pollster is trying to acheive. Finally for those that want to believe anti-administration articles these so called polls just
reinforce already long held beliefs.
 
#20
Whilst in the Sandpit, I had the pleasure of working with the US Navy and US Marines. When the inevitable question arose as to "why are you here?", most answers came back from our US Brethren, "Because of 9/11", when asked why the UK where there I repled, "Oil and that our government has no backbone". One Marine major made Colonel Nathan Jessop of " A Few Good Men" look like a liberal tree hugger!!
 

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