US Helicopters Kill Police In Blunder

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Source - http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1250874,00.html

US helicopters Kill Police In 'Blunder'
Updated: 13:11, Friday February 09, 2007

American helicopters have mistakenly launched a deadly attack on Kurdish positions in Northern Iraq, reports have said.

At least five police officers were killed.

American officials said the helicopter crews believed they had been targeting Al Qaeda guerrillas.

The US military said the attack was launched after soldiers identified armed men in a bunker near a building which they thought was being used for bomb-making.

The troops called for the men to put down their weapons in Arabic and Kurdish and fired warning shots, a spokesman said.

Helicopters fired at the bunker, killing the five men and detaining nine others who were later identified as Kurdish officers.

Officials with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party headed by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, said the helicopters had hit a guard post.

News of the blunder emerged three days after a controversial videotape was aired showing the "friendly fire" death of a British soldier during the Iraq War.

Cockpit footage from a US Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II jet was obtained by The Sun and broadcast on its website.

The tape reveals how a catalogue of errors were responsible for the death of Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull near Basra in March 2003.

The 25-year-old Blues & Royals soldier was killed when one of a pair of Thunderbolt IIs opened fire on his armoured convoy with a 30mm cannon.

The tape appears to show the pilots' forward air controller giving them inaccurate information regarding the location of friendly forces in the area.

When they spot the convoy, the A-10 pilots mistake the British vehicles for Russian-made Zils.
Here we go again........:
 
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Perhaps those who were quick to chuck around 'utterly, utterly useless' with regards to the RAF Harrier pilots caution in the CAS role in Afghan a while back could eat some humble pie and admit they were wrong.
 
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All americans are the same, brought up on cowboy films and taught to shoot first and not to worry about the consequences as their government doesnt recognise the laws of other countries and hey they might be the enemy one day!!
 
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polko said:
I don't see how yanks being worse makes the crabs any less bad?
Well the comment made from Afghan was that the Harrier pilots wouldn't drop their bombs as close as the yanks did, to which the pilots in question responded that they wouldn't relaes unless the targets could be clearly identified, something it seems the yanks have no quarms over.

I believe the RAF policy of not lobbing bombs at anything that moves is the reason we haven't had an RAF blue on blue in a long time.
 
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TheHelpfulStacker said:
Perhaps those who were quick to chuck around 'utterly, utterly useless' with regards to the RAF Harrier pilots caution in the CAS role in Afghan a while back could eat some humble pie and admit they were wrong.
Or then again they might point out that this comment was made regarding CAS that missed massed enemy in the open by 400m on a clear day and that managed to put a salvo of rockets intended for the enemy into a clearly marked and long established fixed defensive position occupied by friendly troops who'd been calling on that same CAS for weeks.

Utterly, utterly crab.
 
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I think I'll wait for the further reports on this incident. Something in the intial reports doesn't read right.
 
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The US military said the attack was launched after soldiers identified armed men in a bunker near a building which they thought was being used for bomb-making.

The troops called for the men to put down their weapons in Arabic and Kurdish and fired warning shots, a spokesman said.

Helicopters fired at the bunker, killing the five men and detaining nine others who were later identified as Kurdish officers.

Officials with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the party headed by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, said the helicopters had hit a guard post.

I can't believe their intelligence was this bad as PTP said something doesnt ring true here
 
#10
Hmm. Could be a 'Chinese Embassy' type deal? "Oh, really sorry, we thought your embassy was a military storage depot. Those 3 direct hits on the military attache's secton were a complete accident!".
 
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AndyPipkin said:
Hmm. Could be a 'Chinese Embassy' type deal? "Oh, really sorry, we thought your embassy was a military storage depot. Those 3 direct hits on the military attache's secton were a complete accident!".
I heard a story about this from a Canadian officer who writes stuff for Janes, apparently thats where the Americans got their info for the targetting systems
 
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True Stacker. But carrots has a point: i'd just as rather not have gungho idiots who'll lob something on the basis it might be an enemy as CAS who'll consider it very carefully in a committee for a week (lets face it crabs are neary civvies most of the time) then still miss. No crab blue-on-blues yet? Possibly due to number of strikes, possibly better training, possibly luck.
 
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kopking77 said:
All americans are the same, brought up on cowboy films and taught to shoot first and not to worry about the consequences as their government doesnt recognise the laws of other countries and hey they might be the enemy one day!!
I have to laugh at your immature and uneducated opinion of us, it is rather comical. Since stumbling onto this website, my personal opinion of the Brits has changed somewhat. And yes, I know, YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT. :thumright:
 
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bellybomber said:
kopking77 said:
All americans are the same, brought up on cowboy films and taught to shoot first and not to worry about the consequences as their government doesnt recognise the laws of other countries and hey they might be the enemy one day!!
I have to laugh at your immature and uneducated opinion of us, it is rather comical. Since stumbling onto this website, my personal opinion of the Brits has changed somewhat. And yes, I know, YOU DON'T GIVE A s***. :thumright:
Belly You should ignore the inane ramblings of some on here but the fact remains British service people have been killed in friendly fire incidents and yet the people responsible are held accountable thats what gets our backs up more than anything. In fact with reagrd to the othe thread running at the moment you promote and give a medal to a man who should be facing a court martial. Thats not just my opinion but one of your top generals according to the papers today.
 

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