US Govt Reviews Its N. Korean War Plan

#1
From an "unidentified Chinese defense expert in Canada" via The Korea Times:

The United States is mapping out a new theater war plan on the Korean Peninsula aimed at striking weapons of mass destruction in North Korea, reports said yesterday, citing an unidentified Chinese defense expert in Canada.

...

Under the envisaged plan, U.S. combat aircraft and bombers, such as F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighters and F-15Es, would conduct ``surgical strikes'' on major weapons of mass destruction (WMD) facilities, training sites, and intelligence and communication facilities in the North instead of ground forces advancing into the North, the report said.


Here's the part I really liked:

Washington is reportedly committed to dispatching some 690,000 troops with 1,600 aircraft and 160 ships to the peninsula within 90 days after a war breaks out under OPLAN 5027.

The plan, however, lacks specific actions to cope with a nuclear war.


"US Reviews War Plan on N. Korea" by Jung Sung-ki. 16 October 2006
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200610/kt2006101617231910160.htm
 
#2
So they're just going to pull nearly three quarters of a million troops out of their arse are they?

I could of sworn they were under similar overstretch to the Crown Forces.
 
#3
Not_Whistlin_Dixie said:
The plan, however, lacks specific actions to cope with a nuclear war.
Not surprising since there won't be one, at least not with America. N Korea may have the weapons but lacks delivery means to strike the USA. They could try and hold S Korea to ransom by threatening to use them against their neighbour. That is of course unless they won't mind a dose of instant sunshine courtesy of the Americans who, as we all know, do have the capacity to wage nuclear war. But let's hope not.
 
#4
Utter load of b0ll0cks - US only ever fight those who cannot fight back and as North Korea won't fanny about the US would never get involved with them.
 
#5
Re. threats to the South: do they need to a nuclear threat given the amount of conventional artillery they have trained on Seoul?

Also, if they have fissionable material a dirty bomb would probably be more economical and effective as a weapon but the tests are more attention-grabbing and thus are surely more a blackmail strategy than realistic weapons programme?
 
#7
If the worst case scenario happens and somebody starts chucking Instant Sunshine around - what kind of effect would it have on us? Would fall-out reach this far? I remember Chernoble managed to irradiate some parts of Western Europe.
 
#8
^And northern Jockland.
 
#9
Werewolf said:
If the worst case scenario happens and somebody starts chucking Instant Sunshine around - what kind of effect would it have on us? Would fall-out reach this far? I remember Chernoble managed to irradiate some parts of Western Europe.
Worse the Global economy would go Pete Tong.

As for fall-out, could I recommend wrapping yourself in Tin Foil and consuming only things that have Vintage from before the nuke. i.e. Wine, Brandy, Whiskey and Compo (when sober?).....after surviving in this manner for 5 years it will be safe to venture out again!
 
#10
We need to wait till the uk government has sold off (given away) all our chally IIs (as we don't need them) before we go to war with north korea and iran. That way, when we come up against conventional forces again, we will be totally un-prepared.

No TB, that wasn't a serious suggestion.

Ski.
 
#12
Saucer of cream for Miss Marinar!
Oh well; I've just gone through a particularly nasty break-up. Bad enough when she dumps you, lads. But when she gets knocked up by a REMF...
So, I'd be more than happy to see millions of people die in a nuclear holocaust. I mean, if I'm having a bad time, so should everyone else.
Does anyone know Kim's 'phone number?
"Oi, short-arse! I DARE you to push the button! Go on you fcuking midgit - I DOUBLE DARE YA!!!"
 
#13
Not_Whistlin_Dixie:

IMHO: I think the American military should review and update its war plans for a war on the Korean peninsula. This is to be expected and prudent given currant events. It doesn't mean that the plans need to be used; however, we should have a well planned strategy in place, for such trouble spots.

As for the Chinese leak quoted, I'm sure the use of air and naval assests on such targets are perdictable and expected by the North.

As for troop commitments, the small American 'trip wire' force will not be able to do much to stop an invasion; however, the South Korean armed forces are well trained and large enough to do battle with the North, especially with our air and naval assets.

In any case, all nations that fought in Korea under the UN, would be expected to come to the aid of South Korea once again.

I would think that all the nations that fought there before should be reviewing their 'dusty' war plans for war in Korea.

I suspect that any war with the North Koreans, would cause the USA to have to start drafting once again, as well as activating all National Guard and Reserve units.

Will the Chinese come to the aid of the North Koreans again? I wonder? My guess, they would not; however, I doubt that they would help UN forces, either.
 
#14
mukhabarat2003 said:
Utter load of b0ll0cks - US only ever fight those who cannot fight back and as North Korea won't fanny about the US would never get involved with them.
I suggest that you study the Korean War, we defeated the North Koreans. The Chinese army and Soviet aid saved the North. After the Inchon landing, the North Korean army was cut off and defeated for all intent and purposes.

Also, that is a pretty broad statement and insulting comment there mukhabarat, I thought we did pretty well with the Japanese, Germans, Vietcong (NVA), North Koreans, Chinese and the Gulf wars.

They all fought back, as I recall. The Japanese in the South Pacific specifically were a VERY tough enemy who fought to the death in most cases.
 
#16
Trip_Wire,

A well reasoned analysis, what is interesting with the dusty plan on the Pentagons shelf is that it does not YET consider the wider global position i.e. Iraq, the GWOT etc and how this ties down limited assets especially force multipliers.

You hit two very interesting points, the Draft and UN responsibilities.

I do not yet see public support for the Draft w.r.t. to the GWOT or NK but I will watch and gauge public opinion in Md with interest.

As for the UN, I do not believe that the contributors to the Korean War are duty bound to fight in the next Korean War. Notwithstanding this the original UNSCR I believe still stands; if the NK ever attacked the south again. BUT I suspect that when it was drafted it did not include a pre-emptive clause in it and therefore the US would probably go it alone.

As I have said before, it is China who holds the key to this and when they are ready and their national interests are threatened then the NK problem will be solved. If the US wants to throw its gold and blood at the problem feel free, you elected your government. IMHO it would be a waste of time, Rummy needs to learn form Sun Zu and not Clausawitz!
 
#17
BBC News website today (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6059240.stm), regarding the N Korean second test: "It would not be a good thing for them, but it certainly would not be out of character," the White House said. Also, France said it would demand an even stronger response than UN sanctions.

Well, according to the IAEA, there are some other (maybe) significants heading in this direction: Egypt, Bangladesh, Ghana, Indonesia, Jordan, Namibia, Moldova, Nigeria, Poland, Thailand, Turkey, Vietnam and Yemen. Crikey!

Prepare for some exotic tours?
 
#18
Pillager said:
So that border that seperates Nk from SK is there because you want it to be there Trip? Or did you call a ceasefire and make for the hills when NK's Big brother turned up?
No, as a matter of fact we (UN Forces) fought the Chinese to a standstill. The politicians (to include the UKs) caused the Cease Fire and its settlement at the currant DMZ. The Chinese Army, was in fact pretty decimated at that point in the war. The war could have been won by UN Forces; however, the pressure from politicians (Both American and UKs) fearing a war with the Soviets pushed for a cease fire. A large mistake IMHO.

Had General Douglas MacArthur's war plans been carried out, we wouldn't have these problems we have today. Most likely wouldn't have had to fight in Vietnam either.

BTW: Were you even born yet Pillager? Have you ever been in real combat? In a real war? I somehow doubt it. :roll:
 
#19
Werewolf said:
Saucer of cream for Miss Marinar!
OK, OK sorry. Not everybody in Scotland is as ugly as Rab. I should have known better since I married a Jockess.

I suspect that any war with the North Koreans, would cause the USA to have to start drafting once again
That would be very interesting indeed. Forcibly conscripting US civilians and sending them to their deaths in Korea? Seems to be about as blatant a violation of the UK's Human Rights Act as you could get. We can't even deport known terrorists if they might face death back home.

If the US reinstates the draft, I can envisage millions of strapping young spamsters heading for the UK to claim asylum/free housing/dole money etc.
 
#20
Ancient_Mariner:

Well, they didn't evade the draft in WW II and Korea and although we had some during the war in Vietnam, the large share of draftees fought well there. So, I doubt that your vision would come true. Besides, Canada is a lot closer and IMHO a better place to go then the UK.
 

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