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#42
NBC were clearly calling Ohio early for Bush but with 99% of the vote counted I'd say Ohio was in the bag and with it the white house.
 
#43
Have all the electoral colleges finished voting yet?
 
#45
Are the BBC saying there are 2 votes in it, with Ohio and New Mexico still to declare?
 
#46
The MSN site is ahead of the BBC. In the key state of Ohio the BBC currently lists 99% of precincts in; Bush 2771k to Kerry 2658k whereas MSN lists 100% of precincts in; Bush 2794k to Kerry 2658k. They are claiming that even if Kerry got all remaining uncounted votes it would not get him over the line. Without Ohio he has no chance.
 
#47
Ohio, Iowa and New Mexico still uncalled. Quite a few dogs yet to bark - apart from the provisional ballots there are absentees, overseas and also ad-hoc paper ballots issued in some areas where huge queues built up. All has to be manually counted so it may take a while
 
#48
Even better than the BBC:

http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/

By clicking on the states you can see a county by county breakdown - essentially only urban areas & their immediate surroundings had Kerry majorities, but in some states this has carried it...

Ohio may need to count provisional / absentee ballots, NM & IA have yet to declare, but the whole thing rests on OH, which is currently:
Bush 2,794,346 51%
Kerry 2,658,125 49%
a difference of 136,221

But nobody quite knows the number of absentee ballots - estimates are around 250,000, which /could/ swing it...
 
#50
PartTimePongo said:
Are the BBC saying there are 2 votes in it, with Ohio and New Mexico still to declare?
It is interesting to see the networks interpreting the vote tallies with different spins. The BBC clearly has a bias to Kerry and NBC to Bush. There is however only one poll that counts and that is the vote itself. It seems to me that most remaining close states have Bush ahead with less than 1% of the main vote to count. New Mexico, Nevada and Iowa look likely to fall to Bush, Wisconsin to Kerry. Some of them may not be decided for days yet with postal votes, etc. The 20 electoral votes in Ohio are the key votes. NBC first called Ohio for Bush about 4 hours ago. The BBC still haven't called it despite the evidence before them.
 
#51
Well if Bush wins , will he listen to half of America's and the Worlds concerns, and do a spot of house cleaning with his administration?

Mind you, watching Perle smirking smugly at o-dark-30 this morning, I guess not.
 
#52
Birdie_Numnums said:
PartTimePongo said:
Are the BBC saying there are 2 votes in it, with Ohio and New Mexico still to declare?
It is interesting to see the networks interpreting the vote tallies with different spins. The BBC clearly has a bias to Kerry and NBC to Bush. There is however only one poll that counts and that is the vote itself. It seems to me that most remaining close states have Bush ahead with less than 1% of the main vote to count. New Mexico, Nevada and Iowa look likely to fall to Bush, Wisconsin to Kerry. Some of them may not be decided for days yet with postal votes, etc. The 20 electoral votes in Ohio are the key votes. NBC first called Ohio for Bush about 4 hours ago. The BBC still haven't called it despite the evidence before them.
They were calling it upto a couple of hours ago then changed to undecided!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/americas/04/vote_usa/map/html/default.stm
 
#54
Bush 1
Kerry 0
Exit polling BIG LOSER

Ohio the diff is 140,000 votes with approx 139,000 provisional ballots left to count. Of the 139,000 only 20% will be valid and Bush is still the winner 8O

Lesson learned: it is easier to get people to vote for someone then against someone :!:

BTW the Republicans gain senate seats and maintain control of the house. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#55
Well if Bush wins , will he listen to half of America's and the Worlds concerns, and do a spot of house cleaning with his administration?
Given that he has arguably a greater mandate now than in 2000 it's unlikely.

FWIW I've been in contact with several friends in the States throught the counting process, a fairly even split with a slight Bush-ite bias numbers wise.

All now seem to think that it's over bar the shouting and most, including the majority of the Dems hope that there isn't too much shouting done.
 
#56
Lesson learned. Always make sure your arch-enemy releases his video , with the transcript suitably amended , the last weekend before the election , so fostering the "Dunkirk" spirit and a siege mentality in the target audience. :D
 
#57
http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp

Date Problem Type State
Description

11/2/2004 Machine malfunction CA Orange County. Neal Kelley, chief deputy registrar said that during the first half of the day they had handled only sporadic glitches. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls FL Seminole County. GOP poll watcher complained that Democrats were distributing flyers threatening party poll watchers with legal action if they challenged voters they didn't personally know. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Volusia County. A computer error caused a failure of the memory card which stores vote data. 13,000 ballots must be rescanned. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL At least 21 voting machines in Broward County malfunctioned and were replaced Tuesday. Most of them had been used by some voters before being taken out of service. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward County. An improperly calibrated machine at the polling place at 2501 Coral Springs Dr. in Coral Springs was used by an undetermined number of voters before it was replaced. If they did not review their ballots, it is possible that some votes were recorded inaccurately. Possibly other malfunctioning machines were also miscalibrated. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward. Several touch-screen voting machines in Broward County malfunctioned this morning when their batteries went dead. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Nine voting machines ran out of battery power and nearly 40 votes may have been lost in Palm Beach County. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Malfeasance FL Voters in Pompano Beach discovered at the last minute their precinct had been moved from the Pompano Beach Civic Center to a nearby church. The discovery was made after an unknown number of voters had cast provisional ballots at the Civic Center. Precinct 1C has 1,200 registered voters. A similar problem was discovered Tuesday morning at Precinct 72Q in Weston, which has 1,920 voters. These provisional ballots will not count. Story Archive In the Pompano Beach case, neither the clerk nor the voters said they were aware of the address change.
11/2/2004 Provisional ballots FL A small number of voters who went to the wrong precinct in Pompano Beach, Fla., were given provisional ballots, which the county acknowledged was a mistake. In Florida, provisional ballots must be cast in a voter's exact precinct. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Voter intimidation FL Seminole County. Complaints of voter intimidation were also reported at the Community United Methodist Church in Casselberry, Fla. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction GA Twiggs County. Twiggs County voters arrived at the polls today to find they could not cast their votes on the Diebold computerized voting machines. The voting machines were down in all five precincts this morning because of an encoder problem from 7 a.m. until about 9 a.m., according to Twiggs Chief Registrar Linda Polk. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction GA Beaufort County . There were a number of precincts that had some problems today with the computers, but at one precinct in Seabrook, the computer broke twice within the first hour. According to poll workers, the machines just wouldn't take the ballots. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Voter challenges IA Linn County. GOP poll watcher "was trying to challenge people for legitimately changing their address," said County Auditor Linda Langenberg. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction IN Indianapolis. One of the precinct's voting machines was down for a time, but it had been fixed. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction IN In Marion County, some optical scanners were not working. Still, officials said that did not prevent people from voting, as they were still able to fill out paper ballots that would be fed into the machines when they were operating. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction IN Electronic voting machines were on the fritz Tuesday at some polling locations. County Clerk Marsha Abell blamed poll workers for causing dozens of voting machines to freeze. Voting at Dexter Elementary came almost to a complete standstill when three of the four machines crashed. At Tekoppel Elementary, two of the four machines broke. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Registration error IN Registered voters in Marion County have been turned away from area polling sites today because their names were mistakenly purged from poll books -- an error election and state officials are feverishly working to fix. Up to 3,376 names of Indianapolis residents were removed from the list because they were thought to be dead -- even though many could still be alive. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Ballot error KY Two voting machines turned up at the wrong locations and had to be switched Tuesday morning. Two people already had voted when the error was discovered and their votes had to be switched to the other machine. Story
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction LA Sequoia machine malfunctions are rampant in Louisiana. The list is MUCH too long to duplicate here. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction LA State election officials received about 200 complaints of problems with machines, including two confirmed reports of Sequoia AVC Advantage voting machines in New Orleans Parish that were not working. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Provisional ballots LA Problems with Election Systems & Software (ES&S) iVotronic machines occurred in Louisiana after officials improperly formatted ballots so that systems labeled nonprovisional ballots as provisional, and vice versa. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Too few ballots LA Not enough ballots are available in the MANY locations with Sequoia machine malfunctions. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction MD Essex County. Problems around the area range from missing keys to inoperable machines to a lack of extension cords. Story
11/2/2004 Malfeasance MD Essex County. An election judge left a polling place at Sandalwood Elementary School in Essex, saying he forgot something at home. When he returned, he was fired over the phone. Voters who had to wait were allowed to vote by provisional ballot. Story
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls MI Police were summoned to one Detroit voting center to quell a dispute between voters and poll watchers. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls MI Tempers flared at one Detroit polling place, when white Republican challengers from Grand Rapids showed up to monitor long lines of mostly black voters. Police officers were summoned after voters and poll workers complained about the Republican challengers. A voter claimed she was shoved by one of the young Republican men. A poll worker alleged she was kicked in the shin by a challenger. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction MI In Detroit, voters said they encountered some broken ballot machines at a handful of precincts. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction MS Scattered reports of voting machine problems in Hinds County. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Malfeasance MS 26-year-old graduate student said she registered to vote at a local church, but learned her form had been rejected by the clerk's office because the name of her dorm wasn't listed. The clerk's office never informed her of the problem, she said. She has since learned that dozens of students are having the same problem. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Vote suppression MS Hinds County election officials were sent to a heavily black precinct to check reports that voting machines were separated for Democrats and Republicans, with more machines on the GOP side. The situation was corrected by mid-morning. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Voter intimidation MS Jackson. Some early voters at a Hattiesburg precinct were wrongly informed Tuesday they couldn't vote if they were wearing clothing promoting the University of Southern Mississippi, election officials said. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Election law NC Voting a straight party ticket DOES NOT include a vote for president. This is by state law in North Carolina and South Carolina only. Voters must vote for a presidential candidate separately. Story
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction NJ Voting machine problem in Princeton. A Princeton polling place had to go without one of its four voting machines for just over two hours. Story
11/2/2004 Vote suppression NJ In Newark, N.J., more than 200 voters sought court orders because they were turned away from a polling place, mostly because their names were not on voter lists, said Frank Askin, a professor at Rutgers Constitutional Law Clinic. In 95 percent of the cases, he said, judges later ruled they could cast ballots. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Votes changed on screen NM New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction NY Late openings, broken down machines and insufficient or inadequately trained staff at some locations. Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction NY More broken machines in NYC. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Provisional ballots NY At the State University of New York at Albany, some students found their names no longer on voter-registration rolls, though they had voted at the same location in the past. They were given provisional ballots. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Absentee ballots (late) OH A woman sued elections officials Tuesday on behalf of Ohio voters who claim they did not receive their absentee ballots on time, seeking permission for them to be able to cast provisional ballots at the polls. SoS office said state law says that if a board of elections sent someone an absentee ballot, that person cannot try to vote at a polling place. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls OH In Cleveland, a Democratic official was thrown out by a screaming poll judge before another told him he could return to the church basement. Story

etc
 
#58
It would indeed be amazing if in the action of over 120 million people voting there weren't a number of cock-ups. I suggest the list above be put in perspective.
 
#59
Lets face it anything in the list in NYC can be ignored as there was a 1.2 million lead by Kerry in NY state. Most of the rest affect both candidates equally. Noticed that most of the people thrown out / warned were Democrats.
 
#60
hup-two-three have your head up your ARRSE don't you, 2bit blighty is a has been get used to it mate, don't worry though you are in good company right up there with tonga,slovakia,and uruguay.


Difference between the USMC and Limey army
USMC kick ass

HM poofs have their heads up their collective ARRSE
 
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