US defends 'targeted killings' of US citizens

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"Given the nature of how terrorists act and where they tend to hide, it may not always be feasible to capture a United States citizen terrorist who presents an imminent threat of violent attack," he said.


I agree with the overall concept but get the feeling the definition of words like 'feasible', 'imminent' and 'terrorists' are going to get looser as time goes on.
 
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Nothing new. The US has had an assassination policy since... oh... at least since the formulation of the CIA.
 
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The sceptics have always had an 'open season' policy on wanted men/women.

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Nothing new...... so have the Brits. Op Flavius? Was any right thinking Brit outraged over that?
Interesting point - but Gib is/was some sort of British territory. Unlike the Republic of Ireland which is the parallel I was suggesting in my first post.

Better first parade the bus, just in case ...
 
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Imagine the outcry if the UK had had this policy during 'the troubles' ... clearly what is sauce for the goose is not necessarily sauce for the gander.
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There was "shoot to kill" etc and the Septics were often upset by British behavior on their favorite island but I can't recall us bumping a citizen off on a "hate speech" basis alone. I can think of a number of clerics who might have been suitable candidates for the Hellfire experience.
 
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There was "shoot to kill" etc and the Septics were often upset by British behavior on their favorite island but I can't recall us bumping a citizen off on a "hate speech" basis alone.
We couldn't get a look in at that sport, we were well down the pecking order when it came to bumping off gobshites. Turn your back and they were all trying to have a pop. :)
 
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US defends 'targeted killing' of citizens - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Imagine the outcry if the UK had had this policy during 'the troubles' ... clearly what is sauce for the goose is not necessarily sauce for the gander.

And no, I'm not surprised or outraged (get that bus back in its bay) just cynical in a wry, mature sort of way
And you think it never happened in UK or to UK citizens?

Ownership of a British passport doesn't necessarily make you a good citizen. Sometimes it is propitious to remove an obstacle, lance a boil, whatever, to the benefit of the fight against terrorism.
 

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With any luck the government will always be the good guys.
That's a naive and foolish statement. The government is NEVER the good guys. The government, of any country, is a collection of politicians and senior civil servants who are highly ambitious and power hungry. They are generally ruthless and will do whatever they can to further their position. There are only 2 things that keep them "good" - external scrutiny and each other. The threat of external scrutiny is declining as western citizens lose interest in the political process and the press generally fails because it is too embedded in the establishment. The result is that the only thing keeping these people in check is the threat that one of their own will expose them for their own advantage. The cousins should be seriously worried about this development but won't. "If you tolerate this then your children will be next."
 
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That's a naive and foolish statement. The government is NEVER the good guys. The government, of any country, is a collection of politicians and senior civil servants who are highly ambitious and power hungry. They are generally ruthless and will do whatever they can to further their position. There are only 2 things that keep them "good" - external scrutiny and each other. The threat of external scrutiny is declining as western citizens lose interest in the political process and the press generally fails because it is too embedded in the establishment. The result is that the only thing keeping these people in check is the threat that one of their own will expose them for their own advantage. The cousins should be seriously worried about this development but won't. "If you tolerate this then your children will be next."
I think you might've missed the sarcasm.
 
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Why isn't there a sarcasm emoticom?

Seems then Bob Dylan was right - Never trust anyone over the age of 30!
WE police the Politicians - or would if the majority of teeth suckers could be bothered to vote.
 

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Apologies. I guess I thought the notion was so obviously bollocks that it would've been seen for what it was meant to be.
It is obviously bollocks, but there are people who post on this site who believe it to be true. In fact, it's the basic standpoint of the people doing the assassinations and their supporters. "We're the good guys so it's acceptable for us to do it."
 
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Nothing new. The US has had an assassination policy since... oh... at least since the formulation of the CIA.
True, but there was a presidential decree as a result of the 1970s Church Committee hearings.

Church Committee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hence why now and again US CIA officers got in hot water for allegedly doing so. Bob Baer's book about his days in the CIA, "See No Evil" has a odd bit about him being under investigation by the FBI for conspiracy to kill Saddam. He was the CIA's man in northern Iraq after the first gulf war. So it was kind of his job...

Anyway, I guess that the Church committee and that way of thinking is now gone after 9/11

Anwar Al-Awlaki held US citizenship and he was turned to pink mist.

Perhaps more worrying in Senator King's Homeland Security committee hearings. He is the one who openly supported the IRA, but is now holding "Are you now or have you ever been a Muslim" style hearings. LIberal, handwringing, peacenick, faggots might draw attention to the McCarthy anti-communist hysteria.

But; Hey, you're either with us or with the terrorists!
 
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And you think it never happened in UK or to UK citizens?

Ownership of a British passport doesn't necessarily make you a good citizen. Sometimes it is propitious to remove an obstacle, lance a boil, whatever, to the benefit of the fight against terrorism.
I agree that ownership of a British passport doesn't necessarily make you a good citizen and that it may well be protitious (mot a word I get to use every day, thanks for the opportunity) to lance a boil etc etc but - I was wondering what the US reaction might have been if were knocking off British citizens in another country, ie. the Irish Republic, for sins commited in Northern Ireland. Or for stating an intention to commit sins in Northern Ireland.

Or did we ... ?
 
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I agree that ownership of a British passport doesn't necessarily make you a good citizen and that it may well be protitious (mot a word I get to use every day, thanks for the opportunity) to lance a boil etc etc but - I was wondering what the US reaction might have been if were knocking off British citizens in another country, ie. the Irish Republic, for sins commited in Northern Ireland. Or for stating an intention to commit sins in Northern Ireland.

Or did we ... ?
Thank the heavens for that. I prefer propitious.
 

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