US chopper paint job

#2
It is a spectacular paint job but nowt to do with the sceptics. It was a Czeq job for a heli meet a few years ago if memory serves me right.

Edited to add - that was snopes and it was Hungarian. :oops:
 
#5
'Tis true, I saw it at a static display a few years ago, it isnt the only photo in circlation.

I have a few from Fairford this year that I will try and post at some point, I have a lovely one with a duck painted all the way down it!!!
 
#7
Ord_Sgt said:
Edited to add - that was snopes and it was Hungarian. :oops:
The national insignia is the green, white and red triangular yoke on the tail fin. On regular aircraft it's a bit bigger.

NTM
 
#8
SparkySteve said:
Hinds, actually ... female dears [oops, deers]. 8)

Get your head round some of the sh1te that turns up at NATO "Tiger Meet" ... for everyone with a Tiger in their Sqn badge and a tasteless twat with a paint-brush. 8O
 
#12
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
blue_sophist said:
Get your head round some of the sh1te that turns up at NATO "Tiger Meet" ... for everyone with a Tiger in their Sqn badge and a tasteless t**t with a paint-brush. 8O
Oi!!
Tasteful 1

Tasteful 2

Ze Gormans idea of taste
IMHO [no, delete that "H"] this posing is a massive waste of materials and, more importantly, valuable personnel time and effort, all of which costs the Defence budget. 8O

I bet you got a fork-off great Velcro badge to go with it ... :lol:
 
#13
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
[spotter]
Whats up with the nose on that boxhead Mk9? Is it the same as the anti IR missile thing on the arse of the UK lynx?

And how come the Germans don't suffer from 4R vibes?, wheres the donk?
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#14
IT_Guy said:
[spotter]
Whats up with the nose on that boxhead Mk9? Is it the same as the anti IR missile thing on the arse of the UK lynx?

And how come the Germans don't suffer from 4R vibes?, wheres the donk?
[/spotter]

Firstly its a German Mk88 not a Mk9.

Secondly. On the nose of the German cab, you have a radar (big disc under nose) and RWR sensors on the front (same as Mk3 and Mk8 navy Lynx). As far as I'm aware, they don't have any form of anti-IR kit like our ALQ144.

As for the 'Bonk' (not donk ;) ), I think the Army are the only cabs to use it (although some cabs do, some cabs don't). Dunno whether its because ours are the only ones to suffer from bad 4R (doubt it) or whether Navy fit cabs dont due to role fit. We removed ours a couple of years ago due to the spindles on some were found to be a bit fecked. But now they are all fine and dandy (apparently), we've refitted them.

You know the bonk only moves the vibration towards the tail and doesn't actually get rid of it? The parameters for ensuring the bonk does it's job is very limited and most cabs don't fall into the criteria on most sorties anyway. Seems like another bit of kit Westlands flogged us for no apparent reason whatsoever. Thank god for the reinforced tail bodge we did a few years ago (due to tails falling off a bit)! All down to the CMRB I might add. The cabs were fine before we fitted those pieces of shite (when I say 'fine' I mean they only killed a smaller percentage due to them reverting to kit form in flight).
 
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#15
Sadly, Flash, not all the vibration got shifted aft - a good deal of it gets absorbed by the crew, especially in the knees of the NHP. After they ran out of space for reinforcement strapping on the boom they came up with the bonk, IIRC. The Quack who did my examination told me he'd seen quite a number of Naval Lynx bods with vibe-induced injuries.

(Ever see the bonk getting tuned at 71? Bolt the bonk to a big block of concrete, and get a BAT to hit it with a lump hammer).

I will agree with you about Wastelands marketing abilities, though. Went to Yeovil when they rolled out the Mk9. (see what I did there). Chatting with one of there senior bods over cucumber butties, I congratulated them on offloading their surplus stock of Whirlwind oleos. Chappy needed medical intervention.

Did they ever relocate the wheel brake hydraulic lines from the front of the leg, or is it still vulnerable to getting twatted?
 
#17
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
As for the 'Bonk' (not donk ;) ), I think the Army are the only cabs to use it (although some cabs do, some cabs don't). Dunno whether its because ours are the only ones to suffer from bad 4R (doubt it) or whether Navy fit cabs dont due to role fit. We removed ours a couple of years ago due to the spindles on some were found to be a bit fecked. But now they are all fine and dandy (apparently), we've refitted them.

You know the bonk only moves the vibration towards the tail and doesn't actually get rid of it? The parameters for ensuring the bonk does it's job is very limited and most cabs don't fall into the criteria on most sorties anyway. Seems like another bit of kit Westlands flogged us for no apparent reason whatsoever. Thank god for the reinforced tail bodge we did a few years ago (due to tails falling off a bit)! All down to the CMRB I might add. The cabs were fine before we fitted those pieces of shite (when I say 'fine' I mean they only killed a smaller percentage due to them reverting to kit form in flight).
All Army Lynx should be fitted with the MRHVA "bonk". Correct that the spindles were worn a few years back and some removed, reason being better to take the hit with the vibe than have a potential big lump shearing off. Can't have our favourite people going uncurrent, of course! As to the "moving it to the tail", this sounds like a bit of aircrew crewroom banter, or maybe one of your REMEs having a laugh with you. How the bonk works is to remove vibration by resonating in equal and opposite sinusoidal waveforms, thus completely removing (hopefully if it is tuned correctly) the vibrations felt through the airframe. It is more complex than that, but you're all asleep now anyway so there is little point continuing.

The cracking around transportation joints (your "tails falling off a bit") was actually more to do with the increased usage of the IRCM engine exhaust ducts; increased weight in the area for starters, coupled with the pressure of the downwash. CMRB don't help of course, because they are providing more lift and therefore stress onto an airframe that wasn't originally designed for it.

Which actually, is in my opinion, why the Lynx suffers more as it gets older. Every modification we have done to it over the years has taken its toll, mainly in weight, and therefore stress on areas of the airframe. Even the modifications that have been removed now (TOW, FETWES etc etc) still have the mounting trays and wiring "just in case"; a significant amount when it is all totalled.

ref Cloudbusters "Tales of a REME tuning a bonk with a lump hammer" ...You've been had mate. Could you stop by the SQMS department and fetch a set of snow chains for the Mk9 thats going to Norway on monday please?

Finally, to drag this back on topic ...thats the first time I have seen those Tiger Tail Lynx photos....
:puker: :pukel:
 
#18
SergeantMajorGeneral said:
How the bonk works is to remove vibration by resonating in equal and opposite sinusoidal waveforms, thus completely removing (hopefully if it is tuned correctly) the vibrations felt through the airframe. It is more complex than that, but you're all asleep now anyway so there is little point continuing.

It doesn't fucking work then. :D
 
#19
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
SergeantMajorGeneral said:
How the bonk works is to remove vibration by resonating in equal and opposite sinusoidal waveforms, thus completely removing (hopefully if it is tuned correctly) the vibrations felt through the airframe. It is more complex than that, but you're all asleep now anyway so there is little point continuing.
It doesn't fucking work then. :D
This is fascinating ... I thought you flew Uber-Choppers, not Vibrators for Soldiers. :D

Has anyone spoken to my old oppo C4 at Westland? 8)
 
#20
verticalgyro said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
SergeantMajorGeneral said:
How the bonk works is to remove vibration by resonating in equal and opposite sinusoidal waveforms, thus completely removing (hopefully if it is tuned correctly) the vibrations felt through the airframe. It is more complex than that, but you're all asleep now anyway so there is little point continuing.

It doesn't fucking work then. :D
Are you sure? Checked your pockets and orifices for other items like electric toothbrushes and rampant rabbits?
Gives a whole new meaning to convoy cock........

As for the 'Donk/Bonk' thing its been a while since I worked in the FAACO, all I can rememer is they weighed a bloody ton.
 

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