US Chinook down in Afghanistan

Apologise for the cut n paste

A US military helicopter has crashed in Afghanistan, the military has said.
The Chinook helicopter went down in the eastern province of Konar while carrying troops, the statement said.

The cause of the crash was not known, nor was the fate of the passengers. A Chinook helicopter can carry up to 54 passengers plus a crew of four.

The military said the aircraft had been participating in an anti-guerrilla operation. It was the second US Chinook to crash in the country this year.

The BBC's Andrew North in Kabul says it appears that this incident is "more serious" than the previous crash.

Eighteen people were killed in that crash, which took place during a sandstorm in April.

It was the single heaviest loss of life for US troops since they invaded Afghanistan in 2001.

US military forces regularly come under attack in Konar province.

A man claiming to be a spokesman for Taleban told the BBC its supporters had shot the helicopter down, but there has been no independent confirmation of the claim.

Source BBC website
Yes the obvious answer is a quick scnellen mak deployment 16 Air Assault Brigade to deploy there and sort out the Bandits.
No messing about can do their final work up in cuntry, soon sort the the guys who King George II has credited with fighting the Third World War.
And to really beef up the infantry element, pack of all thoes jock battalions that we have so many of, far too many posting when they should be training.
nice thinking, but the entire soviet army and a large chunk of the US military with all their technology, havent had much success against the guerilla warfare waged in Afghanistan over the years, would 16AA Bde with their 'vast' experience of mountain warfare make a difference? other than bogging us down, yet more overstretch and adding more names to the list of fallen?

RIP to those who have died and condolences to their families
jonwilly said:
OK MOD ya right disband the Brit army or allow it to remain in UK out of harm.
Did I say that either of those were my recommendations? I think not, should we be allowed to get ourselves bogged down in a US quagmire? and for what reason? there are no British interests in Afghanistan, no oil either.
my post was what difference would 16 AAB with little or no mountain warfare experience make to the situation? Id say theyd make the same impact as the US and USSR (as it was then), stuck there with no exit stratagy and a mounting butchers bill.
The latest from the BBC.

The US military says hostile fire probably brought down a helicopter which crashed in eastern Afghanistan.

A search is under way for the 17 crew members of the Chinook helicopter in the province of Konar. It is not known if there are any survivors.

The hardline Taleban militia - driven from power by US forces in 2001 - has claimed it downed the helicopter.
We will just have to wait and see what occurs with a larger presence by our boys in Afghanistan. As we all know we are blostering our amount of troops by 5000 and heading down to the lovely outter area of Kandahar taking of the reigns from our American cousins. I think maybe there is to much scepticism with the belif that those bastrads cannot be defeated, because of such a termendous fight that they put up. It is the drug game over there now also, and drug dealers out fit thier troops with the best people they know how. We have to realize though Russia's was fight was a different time and a different reason.

Cheers 2CB
The Ahfganis will fight for the sake of fighting. We are all ready committed to send 5,000 troops. We have one new brigade who need to be sorted out. Quickist was is to place it into a combat situation where the troops and commanders will learn their role for real, just as my army learned their job on the streets of Belfast.
The US equiped and aided the Taliban in it's fight against the Russians, I doubt that Russia would assist the Taliban now and without a long term supplier of weapons the Taliban would not be so effective.
Pakistan is still a major problem. It was the US route into Ganistan and is full of its own internal problems, the Baluch being one of them, evil types knew them from Oman.
The problem with armies is that politicians want to use them to do the job they cannot do by talking. Exspensive things modern technical armies, an you can either wrap then up in cottonwool and have them on show or get them dirty.
Luv a good debate
jonwilly said:
Quickist was is to place it into a combat situation where the troops and commanders will learn their role for real, just as my army learned their job on the streets of Belfast.
General Jackson is in the house!! :wink:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Coalition forces have recovered all 16 bodies of the servicemen killed in a helicopter crash Tuesday near the Afghan-Pakistan border, according to the U.S. military.

The U.S. military believes the chopper was downed by a rocket-propelled grenade, Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, the director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Thursday.

The MH-47 helicopter was transporting additional personnel to support U.S. forces fighting insurgents when it crashed, according to a statement from the Coalition Press Information Center in Kabul. The forces were participating in Operation Red Wing, an effort to defeat terrorists in Afghanistan's Kunar province.

The process of identifying the crash victims and notifying their families is under way, Conway said. Family members of the 16 service members already had been notified that their loved ones were on the helicopter.

Bad weather had hampered rescuers' efforts, with high winds and rain preventing rescue aircraft from landing at the crash site, located at 10,000 feet (3,048 meters) elevation in the Hindu Kush mountains -- a restive, rugged area along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

Weather conditions had improved Thursday, allowing soldiers to reach the site, according to Lt. Cindy Moore.

The MH-47 Chinook is only flown by the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, according to U.S. Army officials. The regiment is assigned to the U.S. Army Special Operations Command.
All recovered. RIP.

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