US Army

#2
Very nice guys, generous and competent.
 
#3
US Army?

United States Ain't Ready to be Marines Yet.
 
#4
I once worked with a USA Major (he was artillery, which some would regard as a handicap) he was a good bloke with a sense of humour. Can't judge him on his professional abilities as he was technically missemployed, in a ground liaison role, but he got the job done. I had more experience with the USAF, oh dear. I'm just glad that Ivan stayed his side of the border. A RNLAF officer who once flew with us in the 2 seater in bad weather stated that he was quite happy to fly with the RAF, but would never have done the same with the USAF. Too often it was a case of all the gear but no idea.
 
#5
The chaps from the US Army I have worked with have all been good. The WOs have been excellent and not at all like the image of them projected by that cnut Chief 2.
 

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#6
Generally competant, very hard-working and conscientious people. I have had one work for me in the past - excellent performance and a good bloke. I have worked for them in turn - they do business a bit differently (powerpoint mad) but they look after their people in the main and have much respect for the British, especially HM Forces. You get good and bad as we do but on the whole, good people who are very proud of their country and their military.
 
#7
There wonderfull people, but i don't agree that they are the best army in the world IMO.
 
#8
One of our officers used to work with the US Army a lot, he said their WO's are spot on but their O/R's didn't seem to be the sharpest tools in the box.
 
#9
USAF firefighters are good but only do one job i.e, drivers only drive to the fire & then they've completed there bit for the day. Good kit which is easily stolen
 
#10
Logan89 said:
Wondering how people view them. Not trying to turn this into an anti american topic, just curious about peoples opinions.
This post seems like troll bait, but I'll bite.

Having served in the US Army for ~10 years, there are good and bad in all ranks and branches of the US Army.

I've served with exceptional NCO's and those that were oxygen thieves. I've seen my fair share of asshat officers that were only interested in advancing their careers and those that were genuinely exceptional leaders.

All-in-all, my time in the US Army has been outstanding. It's all about the brotherhood and the person standing next to you.
 
#11
Worked alongside the Yanks for four years in Germany in the 70's.
By and large found them to be a damned good bunch of lads.
One thing I did learn from them is that it is NOT a good idea to get
in a whisky drinking contest with the guy's from Kentucky. Mind you they
did bring me some of their own 'special brew' back from the States
as a way of apologising for me being comatose for 2 days :oops:
 
#12
We had a load of americans attached to us (nuclear regt) and i thought that they was good eggs , did bump into a few mongs , but on the lash they will do anything we can do , but we do it with style 8)
 
#13
I did some time with 10th CAV air unit back in the 77s in Budingan, great kit , they had 36 helos to do the same job as us we had 6 Bell Westland Sioux ahMK!s
 
#15
Only people that ever shot at me (Not me personaly of course but at the veh i was in) in Iraq were the Americans. Happened a couple of times during the tour i was on, they even engaged the COs wagon once and at all times we were displaying all of the proper insignia, Union Jacks etc, oh yes and we were in British uniform which was a bit of a giveaway i thought................. Nuff Said.
 
#16
First my first post I would like to comment on the strength of the US Army. First of all I am not an expert. I am a Vietnam Veteran and I have a son serving in the Army now. This is just my opinion.

The US Army has about 525K soldiers on active duty. About half of them are support troops and the other half combat arms.

The support troops are not trained to combat standards but are trained to do a specific job like intelligence, truck driver, mechanic, cook, clerk etc. Some of them are very smart and have very high skilled jobs. Many others are lower level individuals with minimal skills.

The Army has several combat divisions. All of them are good and some, like the Airborne, are the top tier troops in the world. The Army has Cavalry units, armor, artillery, and straight leg infantry that could go head to head with any troops in the world. The Rangers are in a class by themselves. Units like the 1st Infantry, 1st Cav, 10th Mountain, 173rd Airborne, 4th Infantry, 1st Armored are all very good. We saw how successful the 3rd Infantry was in Iraq.

These troops are all well trained and well supplied. There is a good officer corps and good NCO leadership. A Private in the American Army is empowered to make decisions and to take responsibility if need be.

The real strength of the US Army is in its combined arms approach to combat. It is a great force multiplier. For instance, I would suspect that if the 500,000 man American Army was properly positioned and supplied it could defeat a 2 million man Chinese Army. I also suspect that back in the 1980s if the Soviets would have gone through the Fulda Gap they would have got a little more than they bargained from the US Army.

My son is a Cav Scout in the 1st Cav Regiment preparing for deployment. He is training 14-16 hours a day. They start at 4:30 in the morning and go to well after dark each night. They are training very hard to be a combat force. About half of his unit is combat veterans and the other half are seasoned troops that haven’t been deployed yet. For instance, many of them have been in Korea.

There are many fine troops in the world and many outstanding regiments. The US Army as a whole is as good as it gets. Obama will probably change that but for the time being the US Army is the premier land fighting force in the world.
 
#17
gator said:
First my first post I would like to comment on the strength of the US Army. First of all I am not an expert. I am a Vietnam Veteran and I have a son serving in the Army now. This is just my opinion.

The US Army has about 525K soldiers on active duty. About half of them are support troops and the other half combat arms.

The support troops are not trained to combat standards but are trained to do a specific job like intelligence, truck driver, mechanic, cook, clerk etc. Some of them are very smart and have very high skilled jobs. Many others are lower level individuals with minimal skills.

The Army has several combat divisions. All of them are good and some, like the Airborne, are the top tier troops in the world. The Army has Cavalry units, armor, artillery, and straight leg infantry that could go head to head with any troops in the world. The Rangers are in a class by themselves. Units like the 1st Infantry, 1st Cav, 10th Mountain, 173rd Airborne, 4th Infantry, 1st Armored are all very good. We saw how successful the 3rd Infantry was in Iraq.

These troops are all well trained and well supplied. There is a good officer corps and good NCO leadership. A Private in the American Army is empowered to make decisions and to take responsibility if need be.

The real strength of the US Army is in its combined arms approach to combat. It is a great force multiplier. For instance, I would suspect that if the 500,000 man American Army was properly positioned and supplied it could defeat a 2 million man Chinese Army. I also suspect that back in the 1980s if the Soviets would have gone through the Fulda Gap they would have got a little more than they bargained from the US Army.

My son is a Cav Scout in the 1st Cav Regiment preparing for deployment. He is training 14-16 hours a day. They start at 4:30 in the morning and go to well after dark each night. They are training very hard to be a combat force. About half of his unit is combat veterans and the other half are seasoned troops that haven’t been deployed yet. For instance, many of them have been in Korea.

There are many fine troops in the world and many outstanding regiments. The US Army as a whole is as good as it gets. Obama will probably change that but for the time being the US Army is the premier land fighting force in the world.
On the whole I thought that was a decent post, but the last bit? C'mon, thats just stupid and a real cheap shot. Given Obama's plans for Afghanistan and actually taking the fight to the people it was against in the first place (i.e. before George Dumbass decided on a pointless diversion for the purpose of lining his, Cheney's and all his buddies pockets) I really fail to see why Obama's going to make the US Army worse. More focused and relevant, I'd say.
 
#18
Zoid said:
On the whole I thought that was a decent post, but the last bit? C'mon, thats just stupid and a real cheap shot. Given Obama's plans for Afghanistan and actually taking the fight to the people it was against in the first place (i.e. before George Dumbass decided on a pointless diversion for the purpose of lining his, Cheney's and all his buddies pockets) I really fail to see why Obama's going to make the US Army worse. More focused and relevant, I'd say.
The Democrats have a track record of demoralizing and under funding the US military. Carter and Clinton did it big time. Obama has made it clear that he has no military agenda. The guy never even served and he hung with anti military types. Biden was also a draft dodger. Obama very clearly stated during the campaign he was going to cut and run from Iraq. I don’t think he is to be trusted on anything he said about Afghanistan.

My son tells me that several of the career NCOs in his unit have stated that they will not serve under Obama and will get out. I personally know of several officers who resigned their commission and retired early so as not to have papers signed by Clinton. I think we will see the same thing big time with Obama.

The all volunteer US military is mostly made up of Heartland America, which did not vote for Obama. It remains to be seen if Heartland America will join and serve under Obama. I suspect that unless a bad economy drives people into the service it will be hard to meet recruitment goals.

In my opinion Obama will be a disaster for America and for the military.
 
#20
I worked on an exercise in Kansas last year and found the Americans to be highly a competent, well motivated and very welcoming bunch. Certainly they are the best funded and most well equipped mob around right now.

Not to be construed as an insult but the lower ranks amongst the troops I was with didn't seem to show much aptitude for working outside their comfort zones and seemed to be a bit set in their ways. It just felt as though they weren't as well rounded as our toms. (Though some of them were well round :lol: ) That being said, I found them overall to be a very professional and particularly courteous lot.

(And they have shiny kit at knock down prices :wink: )
 

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