US Army Report on Torture of Iraqis.

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Filbert Fox, May 5, 2004.

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  1. Excellent report - some revealing bits and pieces! Although no-one seriously believes that BG Karpinski knew nothing about anything (it seems), she is very neatly caught lying about the number of escape attempts, amongst other things!

    What was that guard thinking...?

    So, not a great deal went right there, did it?

    If you haven't read the article in it's entirety, I urge you to do so! Utterly shocking dereliction of duty at all levels of 'command'.

    Rant over! :D
  2. Filbert Fox - I've read the report and at face value the septics have done a thorough job of investigating many of the complaints of abuse at Abu Ghraib.

    Not suprisingly in a document of 18,000 words plus, the malignant scribblers in the `popular press' have seized on the list of acts the report details on pages 15 to 18 and barely mentioned the even longer list of US personnel who have been punished as a result of the report's recommendations.

    Recommendations and comments such as:

    • I find that the Battalion Commander, LTC (P) Jerry Phillabaum, was an extremely ineffective commander and leader.

      Numerous witnesses stated that the 800th MP Brigade S-1, MAJ Hinzman and S-4, MAJ Green, were essentially dysfunctional,

      That BG Janis L. Karpinski, Commander, 800th MP Brigade be Relieved from Command and given a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand

      That LTC (P) Jerry L. Phillabaum, Commander, 320th MP Battalion, be Relieved from Command, be given a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand,

      That LTC Steven L. Jordan, Former Director, Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center and Liaison Officer to 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, be relieved from duty and be given a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand

      That MAJ David W. DiNenna, Sr., S-3, 320th MP Battalion, be Relieved from his position as the Battalion S-3 and be given a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand

      That CPT Donald J. Reese, Commander, 372nd MP Company, be Relieved from Command and be given a General Officer Memorandum of Reprimand

    Nor is it suprising the media has ignored positive comments such as:

    • a. (U) Master-at-Arms First Class William J. Kimbro, US Navy Dog Handler, knew his duties and refused to participate in improper interrogations despite significant pressure from the MI personnel at Abu Ghraib.

      b. (U) SPC Joseph M. Darby, 372nd MP Company discovered evidence of abuse and turned it over to military law enforcement.

      c. (U) 1LT David O. Sutton, 229th MP Company, took immediate action and stopped an abuse, then reported the incident to the chain of command.

    Interestingly it is only junior ranks praised for their resistance to joining in the abuse.

    All in all a Brigadier, two full colonels, eight half colonels, six majors and a swag of captains and other junior officers and SNCOs have been sacked or demoted.

    The annexes to the report have yet to be published and a long list of officers (in particular) are yet to be charged.

    I think we have to give the US Command a bit of a tick for actually doing something about the complaints it received and we can only imagine the fury of those US forces not implicated but who will pay the price for their comrades' idiocy with their blood.
  3. I would have like to have been able to read all of the statements given by the septics in the photographs, they would have been a storming read.
  4. Yes, particularly the chap who decided that raping the Iraqi female detainee helped the interrogation process!!
  5. the batteries had gone in his boogy box so he was unable to play the normal 'white noise' tape.

    and they had the nerve to write 'Rapist' on that prisoners thigh!!
  6. have you seen the picture on the front page of the Torygraph today? surely it should be the bird on the other end of the lead and not the Iraqi!!!

    then again, no doubt after the court martial that could very well end up being a reality. :lol: