US army chief backs ban on gays in military

#1
Telegraph online said:
US army chief backs ban on gays in military

A senior US army chief has said he supports the Pentagon's ban on gays serving in the military, describing homosexual acts as "immoral".

Speaking in an interview published by the Chicago Tribune newspaper, Marine Gen Peter Pace likened gay men and women to adulterers.

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#2
In the Christian US (far far more so than this country), this attitude is hardly novel and not at all suprising from a Marine.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#3
Four questions:

Yes?
And?
So?
What?
 
#4
"Qoute"Marine Gen Pace, chairman of the US military Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he backed the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" limits on gays serving in the military.

"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," he said.

"I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is okay to be immoral in any way.""unqoute"


this is rich .. most cant even spell it let alone understand its meaning
 
#5
"I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is okay to be immoral in any way."
Now that made me laugh.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#7
On the one hand he says he backs "don't ask/don't tell" and on the other he believes homosexuality to be immoral and immorality shouldn't be condoned.

Is it me? or can he not see that the "don't ask/don't tell" policy must inevitably lead to his condoning those very homosexuals that he believes to be immoral?
 
#8
Immorality in the Military. Doesn’t the US government also hate porn yet still the country produces two thirds of the filthy filthy (yet lovely) stuff worldwide?
 
#9
Just to show that hypocrisy isn't just confined to the septics, the reply to me asking to officially live out when at Minden was:

'It may be a modern army but it's a Christian army'
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#10
That'll be a comfort to the small number of hindu, muslim sikh and jewish soldiers then....
 
#11
And today...

General Pace said:
A Statement From Gen. Peter Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

“Yesterday, during a wide ranging interview with the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board, I was asked if I think the current policy as codified in U.S. Code, generally referred to as “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” should still hold.

“People have a wide range of opinions on this sensitive subject. The important thing to remember is that we have a policy in effect, and the Department of Defense has a statutory responsibility to implement that policy.

“I made two points in support of the policy during the interview. One, “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” allows individuals to serve this nation; and two, it does not make a judgment about the morality of individual acts.

“In expressing my support for the current policy, I also offered some personal opinions about moral conduct.

“I should have focused more on my support of the policy and less on my personal moral views.”
 
#15
Is anyone actually bothered if they have bummers in their unit?

People should learn to live and let live, and to stay out of other people's business.
 
#16
halo_jones said:
"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," he said.
I guess oral sex is off the menu in the Pace household, so to speak, seeing as how that's a favorite immoral act of gays everywhere. Wouldn't want to condone it, after all.
 
#17
It's disgraceful. If someone's prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for their country, does it matter what their sexual orientation is? (not that it matters anyway)

And if they want an army with morals, are they going to ban all the soldiers that have sex with contraception or out of wedlock? The bible does not say having feelings for the same sex is wrong, just the physical act. And that is because any sexual act should be within marriage, and have the potential to create new life. Now, unless there has been a big change in biology that they're not teaching at my med school, I don't think that can happen in a homosexual relationship. So on that basis, you can't condem someone for being gay, unless you're going to include all the other groups i mentioned earlier too. But they won't, cos then they probably wouldn't have an army left (if the americans I've met are anything to go by, haha!)

I can't believe how hypocritical the yanks can be.

[apologies if any of this is crap. im dosed up on codeine and not exactly thinking straight!]
 
#18
Nothing the Americans do surprises me any more.

The fact the someone is willing to serve their country, and if necessary, lay their life down for it should be far more important than their sexual orientation.

Just the same old moralistic, yet predjudiced, crap to be expected from someone whose mouth appears to be far bigger than his brain. As a marine I would've assumed that he swore to protect the citizens of the USA despite race, creed, colour, religion OR sexual orientation.

Shouldn't gay men and women have the same rights?
 
#19
I personally think the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy is good. I have no moral, political, or philosophical problems with gay people, but there are potential issues in certain settings.

In the military, the men in a unit need to see each other as comrades, the unit needs to be cohesive. However, if the men in a combat unit engage in intimate relationships, this can impact their judgement in the combat zone. Combat has enough drama as it is.

I believe that they are just as patriotic, and capable as anyone else. However, I see the potential problems of openly gay people, most likely young and impulsive, thrown together in such a life and death situation.

I speak from 0 experience though, this is just something I've thought about
 
#20
Is anyone actually bothered if they have bummers in their unit?

People should learn to live and let live, and to stay out of other people's business.
I would be if i shared a room with one, otherwise couldnt care less unless he minces around the place shouting 'i'm free!'.
 

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