US Air Force, Lockheed mum about new "Beast" drone in Afgh

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  1. Air Force, Lockheed mum about new "Beast" drone


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    Mon, Dec 14 2009

    By Andrea Shalal-Esa

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Air Force and Lockheed Martin Corp on Monday acknowledged use of a new radar-evading drone over Afghanistan, but remained tight-lipped about a plane that has been dubbed the "Beast of Kandahar."

    Air Force Secretary Michael Donley said the U.S. military was continuing to step up its use of a broad array of remotely piloted planes. They range from the size of a small laptop to that of the high-altitude Global Hawk surveillance plane built by Northrop Grumman Corp.

    "This has had profound impacts on our Air Force, and in the last eight years we have come to embrace it," Donley told the annual Reuters Aerospace and Defense Summit in Washington. The Air Force is dealing with the significant changes that greater use of unmanned planes entailed.

    Last week marked the public debut of the newest unmanned plane, the RQ-170, which was built by Lockheed.

    "It is a low observable ISR (intelligence, surveillance , reconnaissance) platform that's deployed in support of combatant commanders," Donley told the summit. "That's about all we're going to say on that subject."

    An Air Force fact sheet said the new aircraft was controlled from Creech Air Force Base in Nevada. That is where Air Force pilots also control the service's fleet of Predator drones, which are built by privately held General Atomics.

    It said the program leverages development work done by Lockheed and government efforts to rapidly develop and produce stealthy drones that could be used to gather intelligence and surveillance to locate targets.

    Lockheed Chief Executive Robert Stevens, who also appeared at the Reuters summit, said the new plane was an example of the company's commitment to providing the military "the most advanced technology systems applications that they would need to meet the demands of their most highly sophisticated missions."

    Donley said the military was continuing to learn how it could best use the technologies involved in unmanned planes.

    It now prefers using the term "remotely piloted aircraft" to show that such weapons are still heavily supported by pilots and other staff on the ground, he said.

    Over the years, the military has used "unmanned aerial vehicles" and "unmanned aerial systems" to describe such planes, but those terms veil how much of a manned effort operating the planes really is, Donley said. For example, it takes about 200 people to support a single Global Hawk, he said.

    The Pentagon planned to develop a family of new long-range strike aircraft or bombers that would include an unmanned vehicle, but details still needed to be worked out during a more formal research program over the next year.

    The U.S. government's use of drones to attack insurgents in Pakistan, blamed for some civilian deaths, have raised some questions about the proper role for the airplanes.

    "I don't think there's a proper or improper role. I think you take the technology and your experience...and figure out where it seems to make sense for operational reasons, and then take it from there," Donley said when asked about the issue.

    (For summit blog: blogs.reuters.com/summits/)

    (Reporting by Andrea Shalal-Esa, editing by Matthew Lewis and Carol Bishopric)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BE0AM20091215
     
  2. It looks as though some Arthur Daley-type has flogged them some old Sea Vixens with the tails lopped off

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  3. Sure this has been around for some time in trials...IIRC for Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle. Looks like a mini B2 from above
     
  4. I was going to make a smart comment about the Taliban not having radar but some news agencies are suggesting that it's being used over Pakistan or Iran. How far can it fly? Anybody know?
     
  5. Sorry,

    Just been checking Wiki - it states that the longest declassified endurance record for Pred is 40 hours (!)
    I am sure that Janes states that Global Hawk was about 24 hours

    Take a SWAG. You won't be far off
     
  6. The lack of pilot and associated life support on UAVs and their relatively limited mission statement - lots of loitering, mainly - means they can get really good endurance, though not necessarily range.