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I have been told if i post in here i may be able to get more help. So i have just copy and pasted from my original post. I am going to Loughborough University in October. And i was thinking of joining the UOTC. Could anybody tell me if they go on expedition trips or mountaineering trips in the holidays? Also i am thinking about a career in the Army as an REME/Artillery Officer. Will the UOTC be a true representation of the army or not?
 
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1) Yes, more adventure training opertunites than anywhere else at uni
2) UOTC isn't really a true representation, but will give you a feel for the military, and will give you the ability to know what its all about.
3) If you want to be an officer, then you should do UOTC no if or buts.
4) Its the best social drinking club at uni.
 
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further to that, you will be able to actually learn REME and Artillery skills that the grunts actually do in their regiments.

i like the artillery stuff personally, and theres quite a variance of stuff that you can go into and specialise in. but more of that when you join your OTC!
 
#4
If you're keen you can get onto things like P Coy, the Cambrian Patrol and exchanges with the American ROTC. If you aren't keen, you can spend your military career drinking G&T's in the bar and doing the minimum training. There's something for everyone (for better or worse).
 
#5
Thank you for your help. I have a few more questions. When do i have to apply to join the UOTC? Also which is the closest one to Loughborough University? And how many people do they accept each year. Or is it more of getting as many as possible to join?
 
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look out for them advertising in freshers week, but other than that best bet is to google "loughborough AND otc". if you miss the induction/selection weekend its next to impossible to get in afterwards, until the next year of intake.

amount of people depends on what the facilities can cater for and (to an extent) budget, which is even more limited these days due to the war.
 
#7
Loughborough comes under East Midlands OTC. There isn't much on the web, but you could get their phone number off the army website and ask someone there. As Irish_Cream says, you definitely need to be making contact with them on the first week of term so you can get on their selection weekend.
 
#8
Since when do "grunts" do REME or Artillery type things?

UOTC isn't a true representation, at all, about the Army. However you will benefit from the activities that are run, such as the AT and Leadership training.

Mil skills are taught from scratch at RMAS anyway.

You may be able to get attachments to REME and Arty units and see what they do, and maybe sample their life. You may even get a chance to get away on exercise with them. Try the other capbadges too, if you can.
 
#9
Depends on what wings that particular OTC has. I think only London has a REME subunit, but quite a few OTC's have arty troops which can offer you training in various areas of arty work (CP, OP, recce & gun bunnies IIRC).
 
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chocolate_frog said:
Since when do "grunts" do REME or Artillery type things?
what i meant was that through the OTC you can do what the squaddies do in their regiments - the sort of stuff the officers never get their hands on!
 
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overpromoted said:
Depends on what wings that particular OTC has. I think only London has a REME subunit, but quite a few OTC's have arty troops which can offer you training in various areas of arty work (CP, OP, recce & gun bunnies IIRC).
Sort of...
The Sub-Units (Troops) were effectively disbanded. B and C Coy (2nd and 3rd Year) OCdts now do a sort of "mixed bag" training package, where they get to experience a bit of each.
Luckily, we've kept the 7 PSIs, so there's still a wide range of representation from the Regiments and Corps.
I think I'm right in saying that the Guns still get to go off and do their own thing? If PTI was around, he'd be able to tell you.
 
#12
When I was in EMUOTC about six years ago there was no specialised training, just the ordinary MTQ1 in the first year, MTQ2 in the second year then training the first and second years in the third year.
Bad thing about EMU is that you need to get a bus to Nottingham to the unit if you're at one of the outlying unis such as Loughborough - an hour on the coach soon sobers you up no matter how many cheap drinks you've had then you have to go to the cheesy Wednesday night student events sober and meet your drunk non-OTC friends.
 
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overpromoted said:
Depends on what wings that particular OTC has. I think only London has a REME subunit, but quite a few OTC's have arty troops which can offer you training in various areas of arty work (CP, OP, recce & gun bunnies IIRC).
East midlands does not have an arty troop. However once you have completed your first years training ( mtq1) your eligible to go on attachments. I went to an as90 reg a few years back, had a brill time.

Have fun.

BeastAS
 
#14
There is an arty battery in nottingam, you can attach yourself to them and still do the OTC thing. They are gun bunnies and there are some really good lads in that unit
 
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Irish Cream, from what I have seen you don't get to any thing the soldiers get to do, that officers don't do at some point anyway.

The term "grunt" however could get you in trouble with such units, if misused.
 
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ok fair one, but you know what i mean, the gun troop (and other such sub-units) allows you to the squaddy's job on the gun or elsewhere. use of "grunt" was merely slang.

how often do officers get to fire a gun?
 
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Does anybody know if they are able to teach you to ice climb as an activity. Because i rock climb nearly every week and i lead up to VS. If that means anything to anyone on here. And my next step is to start ice climbing. They may not teach this activity nor may they do it. But it would be useful to know.
 
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boris73 said:
I have been told if i post in here i may be able to get more help. So i have just copy and pasted from my original post. I am going to Loughborough University in October. And i was thinking of joining the UOTC. Could anybody tell me if they go on expedition trips or mountaineering trips in the holidays? Also i am thinking about a career in the Army as an REME/Artillery Officer. Will the UOTC be a true representation of the army or not?
- Yes they do partake in climbing ML (mountain leader) type expeds. europe a couple of years back , rock climbing everything from M to HVS, both top roping and lead climbing. You should also be able to obtain your mountain leader qualifications whilst in the uotc, this will in turn allow you to organise, and lead, climbing trips.

- Honestly , will otc be a true representation of the army? . No. The otc is there to provide a very limited insight into the armed forces and the oportunities open to young graduates to be. The otc will not give you training on managing soldiers day to day, sorting out guys up to their necks in debt, families going through breakups and trying to get the best out your men/women by advancing their careers howevr possible.

What the otc will provide is some limited expierence on what it is like to be in the field, ranging in ranks and appointments from pte to major, Inf bod to coy cmmdr. The otc will also develop and nurture your life skills, develop you as a person , and if required give you all the prep needed to win a commission. Is it worth joining, YES . Even, if, after your first exercise you think '' thats not for me, i don't like being cold, wet and slightly hungry'' at least you will have had the experience in an enviroment where it is relatively easy to walk away. It will open your eyes to opportunities that you would never have previously imagined and allow you to do things civvys can only dream of, whilst being paid.

- beach bbq on st kilda - done it

- live fired Artillery guns - done it

- rampaged across salisbury plain in big trucks - done it ( not legally mind)

- battlefield tour of france for 60th annvsry of D-Day - done it

- Stormed a village attatched to a regular engineers section - done it.

-Attatchment (including) live fire to both reg and TA gunner units - done it

- Section commander more times than I care to remember - done it

- Walked up and down big hills all night whilst wet, cold, and hungry carrying a big heavy bag and rifle - done it.



Also i am thinking about a career in the Army as an REME/Artillery Officer.
Like you I went to uni aspiring for a commission in the former, after four years of mech eng and a glorious gun troop thats officially the best in Britain, I now yearn for a commission in the latter.

Any further questions put them up here or pm me.

Regards

BeastAS.
 
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boris73 said:
Does anybody know if they are able to teach you to ice climb as an activity. Because i rock climb nearly every week and i lead up to VS. If that means anything to anyone on here. And my next step is to start ice climbing. They may not teach this activity nor may they do it. But it would be useful to know.
You'll have to bid in for the relevant AT Course. WMP is the basic one, and there are levels after that. Somebody will have a copy of the AT JSP knocking about who can probably tell you more.
In fact, I've got a copy somewhere...
 
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boris73 said:
I have been told if i post in here i may be able to get more help. So i have just copy and pasted from my original post. I am going to Loughborough University in October. And i was thinking of joining the UOTC. Could anybody tell me if they go on expedition trips or mountaineering trips in the holidays? Also i am thinking about a career in the Army as an REME/Artillery Officer. Will the UOTC be a true representation of the army or not?
Look out for the recruiting team at your freshers fair. Emuotc is your nearest unit as some one has already pointed out, once you are in, the possibilitys are almost limitless for attatchments, visits, A.T. etc. If you are committed and use your loaf you will find the staff will provide whatever help and advice you need to reach your potential. The R.Q. there is a top bloke, which also makes it one of the best kitted out units you will find.
There are any where between 4 and 8 different types of expeds each summer (stuff like climbing, sailing, diving, parachuting, etc,etc) as well as other stuff at different parts of the year.
And yes I am biased, but also honest!
The Phone No is: 01159255932.
Or if you P.M. me nearer to freshers week, I will put you in contact with the Officer who will be doing the fair etc. GOOD LUCK!
 
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