Untapped: The Scramble for Africas Oil

#2
Good, interesting article. The writer implies that this unknown, untapped potential is a huge opportunity to the free world.

I'd agree, if the oil companies' behaviour on the ground matched their squeaky clean public personae. However in the past, the modus operandi has been for western governments and multinationals to bribe the countries' governments, shaft the people, despoil and trample over the local environment and be totally callous, murderous and ruthless.

Take this brand of aggression to Africa on a large scale, mix in a dash of Chinese interest, and the proximity of the Middleast would give us a powderkeg and the potential for WWIII.

Any thoughts?
 
#3
frenchperson said:
Good, interesting article. The writer implies that this unknown, untapped potential is a huge opportunity to the free world.

I'd agree, if the oil companies' behaviour on the ground matched their squeaky clean public personae. However in the past, the modus operandi has been for western governments and multinationals to bribe the countries' governments, shaft the people, despoil and trample over the local environment and be totally callous, murderous and ruthless.

Take this brand of aggression to Africa on a large scale, mix in a dash of Chinese interest, and the proximity of the Middleast would give us a powderkeg and the potential for WWIII.

Any thoughts?[/quote]

Erh, how about...Bring It On?
 

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#4
I see the future of Africa something along the lines of...

Little yellow man walks up to little black man, reminds him how royally the little white man has historically shafted the little black man up the ARRSE. Little yellow man takes out chequebook.
 
#5
Nehustan said:
I see the future of Africa something along the lines of...

Little yellow man walks up to little black man, reminds him how royally the little white man has historically shafted the little black man up the ARRSE. Little yellow man takes out chequebook.
mean while the little black man is to ashamed to acknowledge how much the little black man has screwed the little black man up the ARRSE.
 

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#6
Red Shrek said:
Nehustan said:
I see the future of Africa something along the lines of...

Little yellow man walks up to little black man, reminds him how royally the little white man has historically shafted the little black man up the ARRSE. Little yellow man takes out chequebook.
mean while the little black man is to ashamed to acknowledge how much the little black man has screwed the little black man up the ARRSE.
That a game called incest, and best played in the family...don't want social services finding out...
 
#7
Nehustan said:
Red Shrek said:
Nehustan said:
I see the future of Africa something along the lines of...

Little yellow man walks up to little black man, reminds him how royally the little white man has historically shafted the little black man up the ARRSE. Little yellow man takes out chequebook.
mean while the little black man is to ashamed to acknowledge how much the little black man has screwed the little black man up the ARRSE.
That a game called incest, and best played in the family...don't want social services finding out...
Problem is social service keeps stealing the only radio on the house. a cup of milo anyone?
 

Nehustan

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#8
Red Shrek said:
Nehustan said:
Red Shrek said:
Nehustan said:
I see the future of Africa something along the lines of...

Little yellow man walks up to little black man, reminds him how royally the little white man has historically shafted the little black man up the ARRSE. Little yellow man takes out chequebook.
mean while the little black man is to ashamed to acknowledge how much the little black man has screwed the little black man up the ARRSE.
That a game called incest, and best played in the family...don't want social services finding out...
Problem is social service keeps stealing the only radio on the house. a cup of milo anyone?
[align=center]How do you get him in a cup???



Dehydrated or liquidised???[/align]
 
#9
I seem to remember the Chinese being involved in Afrikan revolution since forever. Didn't they have a connection with ANC, Zanu/Zapu and oh so many other terrorist groups in Africa.

Perhaps now they are looking for their reward
 

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#11
Sven said:
I seem to remember the Chinese being involved in Afrikan revolution since forever. Didn't they have a connection with ANC, Zanu/Zapu and oh so many other terrorist groups in Africa.

Perhaps now they are looking for their reward
Sitting down discussing Capital (maybe even pushing a few stanza from the little red book) is certainly not equivalent to previously mentioned history re: ARRSE. They'll probably smile wryly as they shake hands with people who might at least be called fellow travellers while whispering 'fair exchange is not theft'. Forget reward, this isn't sports day, its the free market ;)

(mind you then again the western world has Sir Bob and Sir Bono, surely that trumps SWAPO et al's indoctrination :D )
 
#13
Sven said:
I seem to remember the Chinese being involved in Afrikan revolution since forever. Didn't they have a connection with ANC, Zanu/Zapu and oh so many other terrorist groups in Africa.
What, were they flogging dodgy DVDs to them as well then sven?
 
#14
Serving in SL at the moment - the chinese have undertaken numerous visits over here during the past few months. i wonder why?





(edited due to too much Star Beer)
 
#16
This paints a rather biased picture. I have spent a lot of time in all of the locations except Sao Tome and Principe.

I could bang on for hours about it, but the bottom line is that the picture painted points the finger at the Oil companies, this isn't necessarily the case. Lets take the XOM camp in Chad as an example. I lived there for a total of 5-6 months on and off for a year.

At the time I was there, XOM and contractors were not allowed out of the camp, except to get to get to the work site. The exception to this was KBR, whose guys were spending 6 months in country at a time, and set up there own camp. We were not allowed in to the village across the road. Any alcohol was forbidden. The fencing was there to keep thieves out and us in (as per World Bank...as little disruption of local economy as possible). The environmental protection was the tightest I've ever seen. Each pad was covered with membrane wherever a spill might occur. Any spill (and I mean to the cc) had to be reported and dealt with properly. As for wells not being capped properly...i don't believe it. Additionally all the oil is pumped to surface, it doesn't flow to surface naturally.

On the bigger picture the Chad operation was run on World Bank guidelines. The principle of this was to minimise impact on local economy, so for example, all food had to be imported to prevent local inflation. Also, every single wooden packing case for the intitial set up was burnt, as per "orders" so as not to deflate the local materials market if it was all given away. etc etc.

So it begs the question, why can't the Chadians imrove the village and local infrastructure with the profits from the PSA? The local areas in some of Britains industrial areas aren't too pretty. Do we blame the companies?

Oh, and you can buy bananas in Gabon!
 
#17
On every aeroplane from and to every airport in Africa, there's a Chinese contingent in Economy, squatting at the back with their laptops, Excel running at 100mph. You'd think that Bonio and Bob Wotsit would have seen such a huge market for their records - no, sorry, their compassion.
 
#18
And they all stink of garlic, and try to smoke in the plane bogs. Upside was, the Air France trolley dollies had a new level of distain, and yer slightly p*ssed Brit, trying to slip into oblivion was no longer treated as the bottom of the food chain.
 

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