Unnecessary Fear

#1
I was wondering if i could get some advice about a pretty stupid concern of mine. I'm 22 years old and since leaving school i've always had a sort of deep down yearning to join the army, specifically the infantry, it's just the way of life, the comradery and the knowledge that you're actually part of something worthwhile that draws my interest.

Now for the stupid part, barely a week goes by without the sad news of another soldier killed in helmand usually by ied attack. The fact that it's so hard to determine where and when one of these things may go off terrifies me to the point where i'm just unsure whether to go for it or not, i guess i'm just looking for anyone who had the same feelings before/after joining up and how they 'dealt' with it. I know it's a bit stupid but i'm just interested in peoples feelings towards the issue.

If i decide to just say fcuk it i'll be applying to join the PWRR hopefully in 2nd btn as light role. Thankyou for anything you can add (good or bad) and thankyou all for serving. Cheers.
 
#2
"Courage is not the absence of fear, just the judgement that something else is more important"- ? Not sure who said that.

Only you can decide whether the army is for you however most soldiers will feel fear, IED's and the threat of death from the nasties out there is part of the job sadly
 
#3
Why are you yearning to be part of something? Don't your family want anything to do with you anymore?

Your right, it does sound stupid, why not just pop down to your local ACRO.
 
#5
Blacklisted said:
You can get knocked down crossing the road.

Join up you`ll not reget it.
I'm sure you've heard the saying "you only live once"

Depends on what you want from the life, yes its hard in certain areas but they're are perks, the Royal Marines get a free holiday upto some Helmand area where we all pretend we are doing some good and sometimes we even get to kill people! Raise your glass mate, he's in a better place! 8O
 
#6
Yeah a few people have mentioned the fact that just as many people if not more die in road accidents etc it's just not shoved in your face so much. In reference to being part of something i guess it's just that most of the jobs here in civilian life are shite and offer no real sense of being or enjoyment, but i'm sensing you meant that in jest or you're just a cruel man haha.
 
#7
jimmydean said:
Yeah a few people have mentioned the fact that just as many people if not more die in road accidents etc it's just not shoved in your face so much. In reference to being part of something i guess it's just that most of the jobs here in civilian life are shite and offer no real sense of being or enjoyment, but i'm sensing you meant that in jest or you're just a cruel man haha.
No, in fact MORE people die in road accidents, and thats fact, and thats not to say civvie jobs are shite, imagine being a prostitute? We all enjoy sex don't we?
 
#8
Actually out of morbid curiosity i checked and you're right, around 3000 a year. Haha ok i'll rephrase it as civvy jobs that don't include the accumulation of STD's and a pricey smack habit.
 
#9
raspberry said:
No, in fact MORE people die in road accidents, and thats fact, and thats not to say civvie jobs are shite, imagine being a prostitute? We all enjoy sex don't we?
Not by percentage of population they don't. Fcuking stupid statement.

Reality is that you are joining an Army that is actively involved in being shot at and you are talking about joining the guys that get shot at the most. So yes, you're chances of being aimed at are pretty good.

So what? The grunts do it day in and day out and I'm pretty sure they don't consult the statistics before they go out an soldier. They just do it because they are fcuking good at what they do.

Want a safe job? Aim towards a Subway franchise. Want to know what the guys you say you admire feel like? Join and find out,

You can read about experience but will never know how you will react until you experience it yourself and there is only one way to do that.
 
#10
Aunty Stella said:
raspberry said:
No, in fact MORE people die in road accidents, and thats fact, and thats not to say civvie jobs are shite, imagine being a prostitute? We all enjoy sex don't we?
Not by percentage of population they don't. Fcuking stupid statement.

Reality is that you are joining an Army that is actively involved in being shot at and you are talking about joining the guys that get shot at the most. So yes, you're chances of being aimed at are pretty good.

So what? The grunts do it day in and day out and I'm pretty sure they don't consult the statistics before they go out an soldier. They just do it because they are fcuking good at what they do.

Want a safe job? Aim towards a Subway franchise. Want to know what the guys you say you admire feel like? Join and find out,

You can read about experience but will never know how you will react until you experience it yourself and there is only one way to do that.


Couldn't put it better myself!!
 
#11
OK Jimmydean, face your fear and realise that there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Anyone who says thay have no fear, has no imagination and therefore has restricted ability to make decisions necessary to keep themselves safe. Fear is healthy, but being obsessed with fear is not. You want to spend the rest of your life in mediocrity? Or will you join up and live a life you could not have imagined. Toss a coin.
 
#12
Thanks for the words of wisdom guys, to be honest i fully expected complete mockery knowing the squaddie sense of humour all too well but the advice given has given me a new found inspiration to just stop dicking around and go for it.
 
#13
jimmydean said:
Thanks for the words of wisdom guys, to be honest i fully expected complete mockery knowing the squaddie sense of humour all too well but the advice given has given me a new found inspiration to just stop dicking around and go for it.
Good lad! Now stop bein a spaz knobead!! :D
 
#14
And fu ckingwell get on with it. Report back when you are in.
 

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#15
jimmydean said:
Thanks for the words of wisdom guys, to be honest i fully expected complete mockery knowing the squaddie sense of humour all too well but the advice given has given me a new found inspiration to just stop dicking around and go for it.
Don't change your opinion every time someone different tells you something, otherwise you will be umming and arrring whether to quit basic if it gets a bit tough. Make a decision, stick with it and have the courage of your convictions.

Good luck.
 
#16
If you're going to joined the armed forces, you might as well join the armed forces to FIGHT!

That means Infantry.

Sure, the armed forces need other "trades".....

Bullshit!

The only individuals that should be in the support trades are those that are not worthy of fighting. There isn't a whole hell of a lot that a supporter can do that an Infantryman can't, minus flying aircraft and surgery.

If you are not worthy, than select a "trade" as the fighters don't need limp wristed nancy's in their ranks in a firefight! They need AGGRESSIVE strong men willing to do what it takes to win.

If you've got the stuff, come and fight. If not, look to the RLC or engineers.
 
#17
John_Mosby said:
If you're going to joined the armed forces, you might as well join the armed forces to FIGHT!

That means Infantry.

Sure, the armed forces need other "trades".....

Bullshit!

The only individuals that should be in the support trades are those that are not worthy of fighting. There isn't a whole hell of a lot that a supporter can do that an Infantryman can't, minus flying aircraft and surgery.


If you are not worthy, than select a "trade" as the fighters don't need limp wristed nancy's in their ranks in a firefight! They need AGGRESSIVE strong men willing to do what it takes to win.

If you've got the stuff, come and fight. If not, look to the RLC or engineers.
Knob much? My bold, pretty sure we don't have our own dog handlers and ATOs either. Seriously, pride in your job role/capbadge is one thing but you're just a penis.

To the original poster.

Yes, Infantry and other combat arms are the only part of the Army whose taskings generally are to deliberately go out and find some fcuker up for a fight. But that doesn't mean support arms aren't with them, it's just they aren't there to fight - they are there to search, clear obstacles, patch up the wounded, handle a dog etc. That certainly doesn't mean they don't fight - because they do.

The point I'm getting at is anyone can get in the sh!t nowadays, so joining one part of the Armys isn't gauranteed to be safer than the other, yes, in the Infantry you're probably that bit more likely to get killed our injured but thats because we're the ones jumping through windows and kicking doors in (most of the time). In return for that risk you get to, in my oppinion, carry out the best job in the Army.
 
#18
There's a lot of good advice here, but you're evidently a thinker, so I'll throw in my tuppence worth. The mob is a world apart from anything else and the vast majority of those who join have no regrets, in fact, many consider their service to have been the best part of their lives. That said, it's not all plain sailing. You're going to be faced with some of the toughest challenges imaginable. They'll be well within your physical capabilities, I'm sure, but you're going to have to be mentally tough. That doesn't mean acting the big man and putting on a facade, it means just putting one foot in front of the other when it's really the last thing that you want to do. You must force yourself to think positive, go that extra mile because no matter what your body's telling you, it IS possible and find ways to relax and relieve any built up stress (a good thrap works wonders, but seriously.) I fcukin near sh*t myself on several occasions and cried on others, but then, unexpectedly, I was able to do things that I still find hard to believe. They were amazing and inspirational, but no more than a reflection of things that I'd seen done by better men. My advice is go for it, suck the lemon and don't give up too easily. You'll either hate it absolutely, in which case, there'll be nothing to regret because at least you'll have tried, or you'll learn to love it. As for danger, cross each bridge as you come to it and until then, don't waste your time worrying about it. Life's for living. You lucky b*stard. I'd do it all again tomorrow if I could. Good luck, chum and keep us informed.
 
#19
Knob much? My bold, pretty sure we don't have our own dog handlers and ATOs either. Seriously, pride in your job role/capbadge is one thing but you're just a penis.

How many dog handling teams are there? 1 per section?

NO.

Why?

Because we DONT NEED FVCKING dog handlers more than we need men willing to fight!!!!


Support is "nice to have", FIGHTERS are ESSENTIAL!!! Kind of like the folks that wash the uni's of the football team.


GO Infantry, get on the line, and FIGHT!!!


There are FAR too many ******* willing to "support", but "support" means shyte when there is nothing TO support! Don't let "somebody else" be the ones that close with and destroy the enemy, GET IN THE MIX!!!!
 
#20
John_Mosby said:
If you're going to joined the armed forces, you might as well join the armed forces to FIGHT!

That means Infantry.

Sure, the armed forces need other "trades".....

Bullshit!

The only individuals that should be in the support trades are those that are not worthy of fighting. There isn't a whole hell of a lot that a supporter can do that an Infantryman can't, minus flying aircraft and surgery.

If you are not worthy, than select a "trade" as the fighters don't need limp wristed nancy's in their ranks in a firefight! They need AGGRESSIVE strong men willing to do what it takes to win.

If you've got the stuff, come and fight. If not, look to the RLC or engineers.
WAH

knob
 

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