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Universal free school meals

Joker62

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Book Reviewer
aw c'mon troops what sort of society do we have that think kids are poor enough during term time for a free meal but rich enough during the hols ? Dont forget the cost price per meal is pence compared to M.P's lunch allowances . If there wen't such a proliferation of food banks I could possibly see that free school dinners were not required . My kids have all grown up and my grandkids dont need free meals , thats their good luck but after hearing stories about child neglect in primary schools for various teachers the poor mites need all the help that they can get . Dont blame the kids for gods sake let children be children feed the needy . out .
Actually, what sort of society do we have that, at most, a decade ago it was the norm for kids to have meals at home during the school holidays, but freebies when school was open?
It's neglect because the parents are too wrapped up in themselves and their rep on Whatsapp/Instagram/Tiktok to be bothered about the kids they had, they can afford to feed them fast food rubbish on a daily basis but heaven help that they might actually have to sort out one extra meal per day, which could just be a couple of sandwiches especially when their BFF, Chardonnay, has just posted the perf pout on Insta and they have to go one better!
 
Replace part of child benefit with bags of pasta, rice and flour, tins of beans and tomatoes, eggs, milk and seasonal fresh fruit.

Job jobbed.
The problem with that is many modern, so-called parents will just stare at the produce and wonder what on earth to do with it. Many can’t manage Dairylea Triangles on Toast!
 

no f in beer

War Hero
Just a random thought but I'm assuming that these 'free school meals' are prepared and served at school. Which means that the kids have to go to the school at lunchtime in order to consume the comestibles. They would be there for what, roughly 30 mins. Got to get there and get home. A lot of kids take buses (either normal or provided school buses), taxis or are driven. Seems to me to be a bigger effort to transport a child to school and back for a 'free meal' than to do something yourself.
Nope - vouchers, 15 quid, Barcode sent to phone, show barcode at supermarket, we never saw an actual voucher during the whole of lockdown. No idea where the 15 quid figure came from,school meals for us would cost 2.20 a day
 

Joker62

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Book Reviewer
Surely if you're on benefits or what have you then you can feed your kids a breakfast.

But already answered earlier. There is the problem of those lacking the most basic of "parenting skills" :( .
How much skill does it take to tip a pack of cornflakes and pour some milk on top?
 
I'm sure if you're on the dole you can work 16 hours a week and still claim, that 16 wont be enough to be taxed on either so while the kids are at school they can earn a few bob to put food on the table.

A lot of schools run breakfast clubs but thats not to be mistaken for feeding kids because their parents are feckless (which I think the media are trying to push that narrative) but they might come from a single parent family who starts work at 8am so puts their kid in breakfast club an hour before school where they will be fed porridge/toast. I wouldn't like to think that these kids were looked upon as scroungers with feckless parents by the schools.
 

Daxx

MIA
Book Reviewer
The council should round up all the food being thrown out by supermarkets and use that to help provide the days meals for the children. Deduct money from child allowance and use it to feed the kids. My copper friends are always telling me about neglected children going hungry while their obese parents spank their child allowance on takeaways, carry outs and weed. They tan their free cash on shite knowing full well that they can get even more free scoff from food banks. Bring back luncheon vouchers. Stop giving the ********* cash
Supermarkets do give their useable but unsellable food to local charities and food banks, and have been for a while.
 
Well social media is once more on fire this morning with everyone posting about how the evil Tory scum are leaving poor kids to starve to death in the street. On the one hand people are wailing about how this massive covid bailout is going to cripple the economy and our children and childrens children will be paying it off for the rest of their lives while on the other hand screeching that the government must stump up the cash to feed their kids at all times, and demanding ever bigger covid bailouts for mainly Labour run areas. I've never known a government give as much away to help people as this one has in the last nine months but it's still not enough apparently.
 
Having worked in residential social care for several years now and having witnessed and became aware of the extent of a sizeable minority of parents' total disregard and neglect for their offspring, increased local authority taxation to allow for significant 'free' feeding at nurseries and schools is something I'm on board with (this is already happening btw for years; a given local authority spends millions each year caring for looked after and accommodated children across various residences).

It goes against the grain of my larger beliefs (using the 'profit' a nation's industry to generate increased employment opportunities as opposed to further socialist programmes that encourage the 'underclass' or 'unfortunates' to stagnate and continue a lifestyle dependent on the government), but short of something contentious such as voluntary sterilisation for those who can't provide for offspring meaningfully, we're kind of short on alternatives as a nation.

While previously places of education were established to err, teach, it is becoming increasingly apparent that a lack of pro-social adult role models in the family environment means that if you're in a position to positively affect a child's development then you should imo go beyond your minimal 'mandate' set by your employer. Even something like involvement in after school clubs has a significant positive impact on a child.

Most on here can empathise with those who have served that have fallen on 'hard times'. The same empathy could be extended to those whose circumstances have conspired to not allow them the best start in life :smile:
 
There is this new invention out called bread...... It really boils me with all this supposed poverty lark.

Flour 39p
Yeast 80p
Salt 80p

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If I can do it anyone can.....

£1.30 instead of your £1.99 plus leccy/gas, half rye, no preservatives and no washing up.

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Truxx

LE
Just a random thought but I'm assuming that these 'free school meals' are prepared and served at school. Which means that the kids have to go to the school at lunchtime in order to consume the comestibles. They would be there for what, roughly 30 mins. Got to get there and get home. A lot of kids take buses (either normal or provided school buses), taxis or are driven. Seems to me to be a bigger effort to transport a child to school and back for a 'free meal' than to do something yourself.
During hols they get vouchers to spend at local food outlets.
 
If they need clothes then go to Primark or use hand-me-downs. I always wore all my cousins old clothes, shoes/football boots, nothing wrong with that.

I had two slightly older cousins whose dads were both in higher paying jobs, foreman with Caterpillar, and on the executive of Strathclyde Transport, they used to send me the best of gear and some of it was not even 6 months old, and my gran bought shoes for me.
 

Joker62

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Book Reviewer
Well social media is once more on fire this morning with everyone posting about how the evil Tory scum are leaving poor kids to starve to death in the street. On the one hand people are wailing about how this massive covid bailout is going to cripple the economy and our children and childrens children will be paying it off for the rest of their lives while on the other hand screeching that the government must stump up the cash to feed their kids at all times, and demanding ever bigger covid bailouts for mainly Labour run areas. I've never known a government give as much away to help people as this one has in the last nine months but it's still not enough apparently.
And here's the rub, do Govt keep on paying furlough payments ensuring that one or both parents are in work and able to feed the kids or do Govt stop furlough payments to concentrate on feeding the kids meaning that one or both parents are made redundant, causing a further strain on the economy?
 
I had two slightly older cousins whose dads were both in higher paying jobs, foreman with Caterpillar, and on the executive of Strathclyde Transport, they used to send me the best of gear and some of it was not even 6 months old, and my gran bought shoes for me.

I was well clothed in hand me down shell suits, and I remember getting a pair of Quasar football boots (Might have been Paul Gascgoine ones) I was made up.
 
I was well clothed in hand me down shell suits, and I remember getting a pair of Quasar football boots (Might have been Paul Gascgoine ones) I was made up.
I'm a bit older than you. I remember being really chuffed with a Blue Suede safari jacket, a simon shirt and cavalry twill half flares.
 
How much skill does it take to tip a pack of cornflakes and pour some milk on top?

Enough for hipsters to be able to charge over £4 for a bowl of cereal
 
And here's the rub, do Govt keep on paying furlough payments ensuring that one or both parents are in work and able to feed the kids or do Govt stop furlough payments to concentrate on feeding the kids meaning that one or both parents are made redundant, causing a further strain on the economy?

Both according to those shouting the loudest, because we're a well off country on the world scale they interpret this as bottomless money pit where every available penny should be spent on providing everyone with the lifestyle they want without them having to work for it. I'm waiting for the "scrap trident and no kid will ever go hungry again" argument to start again.
 
Both according to those shouting the loudest, because we're a well off country on the world scale they interpret this as bottomless money pit where every available penny should be spent on providing everyone with the lifestyle they want without them having to work for it. I'm waiting for the "scrap trident and no kid will ever go hungry again" argument to start again.

If we did the money would just get squandered on lesbian BLM outreach coordinators fighting racism through the medium of interpretive dance or some such
 

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