UNITE tops Labour's MEP list

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OldSnowy

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#4
I think it's a Damn Shame. they've bought those seats fair and square, and I don't think that they should be forced to stand for them as well.....
 
#5
I think it's a Damn Shame. they've bought those seats fair and square, and I don't think that they should be forced to stand for them as well.....
I would love to see Unite demand full and immediate repayment of their loans to the Labour party.
 

Wordsmith

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I would love to see Unite demand full and immediate repayment of their loans to the Labour party.
No political party is entirely free of influence from its backers, but Labour seem more beholden to the unions than the Tories or Limp Dems are to their respective backers.

The unions seem the bastions of the old left. The left seem to work on the basis that as their policies are unpopular with the public directly they can bring them in by stealth by infiltrating the unions and imposing their policies on Labour. Bit like the Militant Tendency in the 80's.

Millipede is well and truly caught. The unions put him in place rather than his brother and now he finds he's made a Faustian pact. Cut back the union influence and he doesn't get the money. Allow the unions influence over Labour policy and he doesn't get elected.

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#8
Unions now have no real power, so the only way they can get the power that they want in to get political in a serious way, but the next labour/ unite govt will really send the UK s economy to the bottom!
 
#9
Members of a union standing for election under the Labour flag? Whatever next, businessmen and bankers standing as Conservatives? Hell in a handcart, I tell you.
 

the_boy_syrup

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#10
Most union men I've met are self serving ******* with everything to say about **** all but **** all to say about anything worthwhile.
Well suited to be MP's then
 
#11
I'm a member of the CWU and they have done a fair bit for me lately.

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#12
Does it make any difference in reality, MPs or MEPS are socially exclusive of those they serve, it is something like seven per cent of the population is educated independently, compared to 35 per cent of MPs, a tenth or so of all MPs were educated at just 13 schools.

These UNITE prospective MEPS have their own agenda of course, but same goes for any of the other party candidates, gravy train passengers all the way.

Now i am off to walk my whippet wearing my flat cap and wearing my Eton school tie.
 
#13
Unions now have no real power, so the only way they can get the power that they want in to get political in a serious way, but the next labour/ unite govt will really send the UK s economy to the bottom!
It's not so much a case of the unions seeking power. It's a case of the hard left seeking power and using unions as a vehicle to obtain that power through the Labour party. Hardly anybody bothers to vote in union elections so it doesn't take many like minded souls to get somebody like Big Len into a position where he could bankrupt the party and bring down a Labour government.

There hasn't been a communist MP elected in Britain since 1946. Hard left candidates typically score less than 1% in elections and none of them really believe the crap about a socialist revolution sweeping the government of their dreams into power. Except Arthur Scargill.

The class warriors, communists and loony lefties tried to take over Labour via the unions in the 1970s. They tried again in the 1980s via Militant. Now, with the Labour party at its weakest since Michael Foot was leader in the early 80s, there's a real chance for the comrades to get their feet under the table. As I've said before, if I wanted to live in a socialist state, I wouldn't have spent the Cold War behind many a ship's bar learning to make the perfect pink gin.
 
#14
Trade unionism. It would be interesting to know how many people who slag them here are not/ cannot be a member. Therefore have no knowledge. I am a member of unite. I think it's grown too large and detracted from the focus of its original members.
Recently, the full time official allowed our company to effectively give us a 7k pay cut in order to secure a new facility. The union did **** all to stop this. The works committee was divided and powerless. No one today can strike. Mortgages etc prevent this. We got a 3% pay rise, the board gets 1.5million in share options.
There is massive disparity there. I know, " count myself lucky I got a rise etc etc". But it still sickens people. And it will only get worse people. Zero hours contracts, drop in employment benefits, reduced holidays, H & S issues. All to come. My company has a Clause written into new contracts that you can be sent home if there's no work and be called in when there is. Good, in concept, but if the inept management cannot get the flow of work right it's always the worker who has to take up the slack.

I've been a member of unite/ it's predecessor since 1990. Currently they don't have any political aspirations. Unless its Tory. Cos they certainly don't look after its members!!!



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Trade unionism. It would be interesting to know how many people who slag them here are not/ cannot be a member. Therefore have no knowledge. I am a member of unite. I think it's grown too large and detracted from the focus of its original members.
Recently, the full time official allowed our company to effectively give us a 7k pay cut in order to secure a new facility. The union did **** all to stop this. The works committee was divided and powerless. No one today can strike. Mortgages etc prevent this. We got a 3% pay rise, the board gets 1.5million in share options.
There is massive disparity there. I know, " count myself lucky I got a rise etc etc". But it still sickens people. And it will only get worse people. Zero hours contracts, drop in employment benefits, reduced holidays, H & S issues. All to come. My company has a Clause written into new contracts that you can be sent home if there's no work and be called in when there is. Good, in concept, but if the inept management cannot get the flow of work right it's always the worker who has to take up the slack.

I've been a member of unite/ it's predecessor since 1990. Currently they don't have any political aspirations. Unless its Tory. Cos they certainly don't look after its members!!!



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UNITE don't have political aspirations, are you mad?
They select the Labour M.P's! There wouldn't be a Labour Party if it wasn't for your union.
 
#16
It's not so much a case of the unions seeking power. It's a case of the hard left seeking power and using unions as a vehicle to obtain that power through the Labour party. Hardly anybody bothers to vote in union elections so it doesn't take many like minded souls to get somebody like Big Len into a position where he could bankrupt the party and bring down a Labour government.

There hasn't been a communist MP elected in Britain since 1946. Hard left candidates typically score less than 1% in elections and none of them really believe the crap about a socialist revolution sweeping the government of their dreams into power. Except Arthur Scargill.

The class warriors, communists and loony lefties tried to take over Labour via the unions in the 1970s. They tried again in the 1980s via Militant. Now, with the Labour party at its weakest since Michael Foot was leader in the early 80s, there's a real chance for the comrades to get their feet under the table. As I've said before, if I wanted to live in a socialist state, I wouldn't have spent the Cold War behind many a ship's bar learning to make the perfect pink gin.
I would like to draw your attention to the Mental Health Act 1893
The balderdash contained in this post,may be grounds for your detention
under the above act.
 
#17
There wouldn't be a Conservative party if it wasn't for fat cats. Irrespective what political persuasion you are, all parties raise cash from outside agencies. It's not illegal provided its transparent.

Back handlers and cash for questions will always go on. However these are illegal. The point is this. Unions are not the bastion of communism they may have been 40 years ago. Look at the examples of Germany and Japan. Their unions don't seek to bring down governments. Neither does unions today, but they will disagree with each other. **** me, there isn't a union in the land who liked Tony Blair and he was a Labour PM.
And don't for one minute think the current gov support the armed forces either. If its too expensive it will get the chop. Regardless. And banging on saying Labour created the recession is just silly. The global banking system did that, otherwise why is USA fucked as well. UK GDP isn't worth a piss in a pot to what the USA makes so what the **** could we have done to create it. We were simply a part of a global **** up.


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There wouldn't be a Conservative party if it wasn't for fat cats. Irrespective what political persuasion you are, all parties raise cash from outside agencies. It's not illegal provided its transparent.

Back handlers and cash for questions will always go on. However these are illegal. The point is this. Unions are not the bastion of communism they may have been 40 years ago. Look at the examples of Germany and Japan. Their unions don't seek to bring down governments. Neither does unions today, but they will disagree with each other. **** me, there isn't a union in the land who liked Tony Blair and he was a Labour PM.
And don't for one minute think the current gov support the armed forces either. If its too expensive it will get the chop. Regardless. And banging on saying Labour created the recession is just silly. The global banking system did that, otherwise why is USA fucked as well. UK GDP isn't worth a piss in a pot to what the USA makes so what the **** could we have done to create it. We were simply a part of a global **** up.


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Which union do you think sponsored Tony Blair?
 
#19
Not many post 98 when he clipped the TUC's wings. By that rational Which business leaders/ investment bankers supported the Tories.

Labour came about from the TU movement in the 1920's. I think if you looked into the reasons why they came about may make their genesis more understandable.


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It's not so much a case of the unions seeking power. It's a case of the hard left seeking power and using unions as a vehicle to obtain that power through the Labour party. Hardly anybody bothers to vote in union elections so it doesn't take many like minded souls to get somebody like Big Len into a position where he could bankrupt the party and bring down a Labour government.
The CWU elections were held recently and I specifically went through the candidates statements, anyone who talked about class, politics or equality for ethnic groups and women was binned. Everyone should be equal, no pandering to just one specific demographic and I would prefer the union members to actually be interested in union members rather than talking about the evil conservatives.
 

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