UNITE Members - Guess what your dues are paying for?

#1
Anyone up for firing up the outrage bus this afternoon?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ny-Woodley-flies-luxury-sunshine-holiday.html

I can understand the bloke going on holiday, but it's a bit rich considering he's meant to be representing the poor oppressed masses against their money grabbing capitalist exploiters. Suppose that's what Socialism is all about - everyone being equal (apart from a few valued party members).
 

Sixty

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#2
He's gone to Cyprus for a week. It's not like he's swanning about for two months on the other side of the world is it?
 
#3
Sixty said:
He's gone to Cyprus for a week. It's not like he's swanning about for two months on the other side of the world is it?
I think the point may be that he's on holiday, a rather grand holiday at that, whilst the people who are funding it are on a strike that is becoming increasingly unsustainable from a strikers' point of view, and is unable to be resolved because of his intransigence.
 
#4
Shouldn't he be there still trying to make some headway in the nogotiations while everyone he epresents strikes?and there is plenty of time to go on holdiay between strikes, surely? on a side note...wow how nice was that range!???
 

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#5
A 'grand' holiday? In a villa owned by someone connected to Unite and for a week?

Perhaps he should dress himself in a hair shirt, accessorised by this season's must-have sackcloth and ashes.
 
#6
If I was a member of Unite I'd be chuffed to bits my union fees were paying someone 120k a year to stay in a villa owned by the wife of another Unite head shed.

Stand the bus down unless it's a comedy tour of the picket lines so we can take the p1ss.
 
#8
Must be a slow news day, oh wait, it's the mail. What a surprise. If BA restored the traveling rights to staff who will loose their jobs if they don't get them back, there wouldn't be a strike.
 
#9
He's got a fairly nice motor on his drive (if you like tha kind of thing)

Could someone pop round and burgularise his gaff
 
#10
TLewis90 said:
Shouldn't he be there still trying to make some headway in the nogotiations while everyone he epresents strikes?and there is plenty of time to go on holdiay between strikes, surely? on a side note...wow how nice was that range!???
My bold: I did note that also, along with a healthy salary to match it,

Besides he's probably finally realised BA are not going to give in & gave up himself :?

Some of the comments make intersting reading.
 
#11
I wonder if Walsh would be satisfied with a borrowed house for a week. I wonder if he would be satisfied with 120k a year.
 
#12
rgjbloke said:
Must be a slow news day, oh wait, it's the mail. What a surprise. If BA restored the traveling rights to staff who will loose their jobs if they don't get them back, there wouldn't be a strike.
yes there would. That point would bve just the start of negotiations. Alternatively, if UNITE had accepted the agreed deal on the table without announcing strike dates the idiots would not have lost the perks in the first place. They are not rights as you like to misconstrue them as, they are privileges that can be withdrawn at any time. They were warned, they****ed up, they lost the privileges. Soon, they may not even have jobs
 
#13
Whet said:
I wonder if Walsh would be satisfied with a borrowed house for a week. I wonder if he would be satisfied with 120k a year.
Perhaps he would be more satisified with a Union that realised it was in the 21st century and didn't make its members out to be fools.
 
#15
beemer007 said:
TLewis90 said:
Shouldn't he be there still trying to make some headway in the nogotiations while everyone he epresents strikes?and there is plenty of time to go on holdiay between strikes, surely? on a side note...wow how nice was that range!???
My bold: I did note that also, along with a healthy salary to match it,
The car is part of his pay and perks package. Nice work if you can get it eh?
 

maguire

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#16
wet_blobby said:
Whet said:
I wonder if Walsh would be satisfied with a borrowed house for a week. I wonder if he would be satisfied with 120k a year.
That's just limp that is. Can you not just work up a false anger or something? :p
he tried, but he fell asleep. :cry:
 
#17
drain_sniffer said:
rgjbloke said:
Must be a slow news day, oh wait, it's the mail. What a surprise. If BA restored the traveling rights to staff who will loose their jobs if they don't get them back, there wouldn't be a strike.
yes there would. That point would bve just the start of negotiations. Alternatively, if UNITE had accepted the agreed deal on the table without announcing strike dates the idiots would not have lost the perks in the first place. They are not rights as you like to misconstrue them as, they are privileges that can be withdrawn at any time. They were warned, they****ed up, they lost the privileges. Soon, they may not even have jobs
I was talking to a BA member of staff last night who was disgusted at BA for their stance on this matter. As I understand it, if Walsh restored the traveling rights, or whatever you want to call them, staff would return to work. This strike has turned into Walsh wanting to show he is bigger and harder than the Unions and his staff over this point. I hope he falls flat on his face.
 
#18
rgjbloke said:
drain_sniffer said:
rgjbloke said:
Must be a slow news day, oh wait, it's the mail. What a surprise. If BA restored the traveling rights to staff who will loose their jobs if they don't get them back, there wouldn't be a strike.
yes there would. That point would bve just the start of negotiations. Alternatively, if UNITE had accepted the agreed deal on the table without announcing strike dates the idiots would not have lost the perks in the first place. They are not rights as you like to misconstrue them as, they are privileges that can be withdrawn at any time. They were warned, they****ed up, they lost the privileges. Soon, they may not even have jobs
I was talking to a BA member of staff last night who was disgusted at BA for their stance on this matter. As I understand it, if Walsh restored the traveling rights, or whatever you want to call them, staff would return to work. This strike has turned into Walsh wanting to show he is bigger and harder than the Unions and his staff over this point. I hope he falls flat on his face.
Funny, I know several people who work for BA (coming from Hounslow, a lot of folk tend to end up working for em) 3 are cabin crew out of Gatwick, 1 is cabin crew out of Heathrow and the rest are ground staff. All but 1 say UNITE are acting like fools.

When the initial deal was placed on the table, a deal that UNITE agreed to, Walsh requested that no strike dates be announced while final negotiations were under way. Within hours, strike dates were announced. UNITE tried to box clever and lost badly and now they are just trying to save face.

BA announced that anyone striking would loose all privileges. They have kept to there word. Unite are now using the traditional lefty tactic of making the other guy out to be unreasonable, but it is known that if BA back down on the travel privileges, it would be a starting point for negotiations on new contracts to begin from. That is not a guarantee to suspend further strikes. The FACT is, UNITE tried to be greedy and push BA into proposals that were unreasonable. Notice how flights out of Gatwick are unaffected? Its because they all signed up to BA's new proposals years ago without even a peep.

UNITE lost the plot, and now they are trying to make a regain. One thing you can guarantee, if Walsh falls flat on his face as you hope, so will the Airline and thousands of jobs. All because the UNITE leadership cant keep their gobs shut. Still, they will still have their nice little cosy pads and salaries whilst the people they represent will have to look for work on airlines that pay a third of BA's wages and none of the perks
 
#19
rgjbloke said:
I was talking to a BA member of staff last night who was disgusted at BA for their stance on this matter. As I understand it, if Walsh restored the traveling rights, or whatever you want to call them, staff would return to work. This strike has turned into Walsh wanting to show he is bigger and harder than the Unions and his staff over this point. I hope he falls flat on his face.
He won't - if he gives in, then the battle will be repeated at some time in the future. Just as the miners' did the strikers will gradually drift back to work - they don't really have an option. And those that predicated their income, and their ability to sustain employment, on the basis of permanent travel subsidies, will have to find employment elsewhere. Simples.
 

Command_doh

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#20
Its quite simple - B.A. staff are on a better overall package and enjoy much better perks than the other trolley - dolleys. Walsh said 'if you strike, lose your *non contractual* free/discounted travel for life. Those who did, lost it.

Now they have accepted all the issues they were protesting about in the first place. They are only striking now for something they could have avoided if they accepted what they refused to accept before. Walsh cannot go back on his word now as he he will have to deal with the ground crews, the check in staff, the Admin bods and the HQ wallah's afterwards.

These idiots have made their beds by being prima donna's who cannot accept the realities of cost cutting in a recession and global contraction of markets. They have to lie down now and accept reality.
 

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