Unions Starting to Desert Labour?

#1
Unison boss David Prentis attacks as union to suspend Labour MP cash

One of Britain’s biggest public sector unions is to suspend its payments to Labour MPs after its leader launched a savage attack on the party.

Dave Prentis, general secretary of Unison, said public sector support for the Labour party had collapsed as the Government “had let the billionaires, the bankers and the private profiteers call the shots”.

Addressing delegates at Unison’s annual conference in Brighton he said: “Our Labour link is an integral part of our union. But our members are tired of feeding the hands that bites them. No more blank cheques.”

Mr Prentis suggested that in future money would only go to support MPs who stood up for the union’s values on public services, such as opposing privatisation and competitive tendering.

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Combine that with the fact that they're still carrying large amounts of debt, appear to be haemorrhaging financial support and are being deserted by the large donors they've relied on in the recent past and things could get interesting. Now granted it's not the union's annual contribution of about £1.5million they donate to the central Labour Party but the extra "constituency development payments" but even so it's got to be making some Labour MPs and party officials worried I would expect.

Does anyone think we'll see one of the main unions fully disaffiliate from Labour and completely cut their funding for the party? Or will inertia and wanting to oppose the Conservatives keep them safe at least until the next election?
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#2
This would be the first step then. The next step in the face of the inevitable cuts in over-staffed and funded public bodies will be massed strikes that bring the country to its knees. Of course, it won't be under Gordons watchful eye, it will be during the Reign of Dave, and the Conservatives will get all the blame.
 

maguire

LE
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#3
'it's got to be making some Labour MPs and party officials worried I would expect'

agreed, but with Cyclops' grasp on reality appearing to be what it is, will it actually register? those Downfall spoofs could be a lot closer to reality than perhaps you might think.
 

maguire

LE
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#5
lsquared said:
With a modicum of common-sense and with any luck!
think about what you've just said.

this is Liarbour and unions we're talking about. :cry:
 
#6
maguire said:
lsquared said:
With a modicum of common-sense and with any luck!
think about what you've just said.

this is Liarbour and unions we're talking about. :cry:
Sorry pal, I did not make myself clear.

If any union had any common-sense, they would bin this pool of sick masquerading as a government.

If our sad nation had a little luck, the unions would ALL bin the malevolent and hopeless Labour Party - for good!
 
#7
This seems to be a shot across the bows for Gordon in case he's thinking of a pay freeze or compulsory redundancies for the Civil Service. As Labour will be out at the next election anyway, the unions now have nothing to lose by asserting their power over the government.

It'll be interesting to see how far the unions push. With 90% of Labour funding coming from unions, they could easily bankrupt the party. That would mean that the NEC, including many ARRSE favourites like Gordon, Harperson and Keith Vaz becoming personally liable for Labour's debts and facing bankruptcy.

If the unions start having a laugh in the dying days of the current government, it might encourage Dave to introduce his £50k donations cap sooner rather than later to stop future Labour governments being held to ransom in this way.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
the £50k cap is a great idea, but whats to stop the unions making lots of donations through the membership? lots of £50ks = back to where we were. it'll be very difficult to police.
 
#9
Hmm. Massive public backlash against the tube strike, unions better get a grip before BNP start clubbing you leftie tw#ts. Time those feckers got real and a. leave the gimp losing party, b. start planning how to be of use to an incoming Conservative/Green/Methodist/Far Righter than Thou party.

Meths, Taxi
 
#10
maguire said:
'it's got to be making some Labour MPs and party officials worried I would expect'

agreed, but with Cyclops' grasp on reality appearing to be what it is, will it actually register? those Downfall spoofs could be a lot closer to reality than perhaps you might think.
It can do a wee bit more than just worry them, actually.

The Labour Party is set up constitutionally like a small society or club, and the principal officers of the Party (chairman, treasurer and so on) are all liable for the Party's debts without limitation should the Party go bankrupt. Currently the Labour Party owes well over a million, mostly to banks and said banks are composed of extremely hard-nosed accountants. Now, consider this: any MP who is made bankrupt is automatically booted out of Parliament; no ifs, no buts, no wiggle room at all but instant boot.

So, should the Unions decide not to fund the Labour Party at all, then that leaves the Party with somewhere between zilch and not much coming in, and a lot of money going out. Oh, and some bankers who all of a sudden see their money at risk. What's the betting that these bankers will simply walk up to Gordon and say "Pay us now, in full, in cold hard cash IMMEDIATELY or we will call in the debt, bankrupt the Party and bankrupt you and your cronies".

Should that happen, Gordon will have two options: have a whip-round of Labour Party members on the lines of "Lend me 50 grand apiece or I'll boot you out" or call the banks' bluff and run the risk of getting bounced out of office unceremoniously. The unions know all this. The Labour Party knows that the unions know this, and that the Unions effectively hold the life of the Labour Party in their hands. Watch the Government cave in to union demands over and over and over again over the coming months, as the petty little hitlers in the Unions gloat over what is probably the one and only time in their careers when they'll have an entire government by the goolies unable to tell them to go do one...
 
#11
Doc1701 said:
Should that happen, Gordon will have two options: have a whip-round of Labour Party members on the lines of "Lend me 50 grand apiece or I'll boot you out" or call the banks' bluff and run the risk of getting bounced out of office unceremoniously. The unions know all this. The Labour Party knows that the unions know this, and that the Unions effectively hold the life of the Labour Party in their hands. Watch the Government cave in to union demands over and over and over again over the coming months, as the petty little hitlers in the Unions gloat over what is probably the one and only time in their careers when they'll have an entire government by the goolies unable to tell them to go do one...
Cheers, Doc! That's cheered me up no end!

MsG
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#12
'Should that happen, Gordon will have two options: have a whip-round of Labour Party members on the lines of "Lend me 50 grand apiece or I'll boot you out" or call the banks' bluff and run the risk of getting bounced out of office unceremoniously. The unions know all this. The Labour Party knows that the unions know this, and that the Unions effectively hold the life of the Labour Party in their hands. Watch the Government cave in to union demands over and over and over again over the coming months, as the petty little hitlers in the Unions gloat over what is probably the one and only time in their careers when they'll have an entire government by the goolies unable to tell them to go do one... '

I would love that to happen, but it's going to take dynamite to shift that cnut from no.10.

if he can run roughshod over every other convention in british parliamentary procedure, what makes you think he'll suddenly start playing by the rules if that happens?
 
#13
"t'll be interesting to see how far the unions push. With 90% of Labour funding coming from unions, they could easily bankrupt the party. That would mean that the NEC, including many ARRSE favourites like Gordon, Harperson and Keith Vaz becoming personally liable for Labour's debts and facing bankruptcy."

Thank you Old one for such a nice start to my day.
john
 
#14
maguire said:
'Should that happen, Gordon will have two options: have a whip-round of Labour Party members on the lines of "Lend me 50 grand apiece or I'll boot you out"
Third option; Ask all Labour MPs to work for a month without pay (or allowances) a la British Airways. Must be worth a few thousand.
PS. Theoretically shouldn't the union leaders ask their members before they take any actions like those suggested?
 
#15
Doc1701 said:
What's the betting that these bankers will simply walk up to Gordon and say "Pay us now, in full, in cold hard cash IMMEDIATELY or we will call in the debt, bankrupt the Party and bankrupt you and your cronies".
Now that would be awesome :D There would be a kind of delicious irony to it all, 'Prudence' Cyclops, bastion of fiscal responsibility, (well actually the cnut who's ruined the country) manages to bankrupt himself :lol:
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#16
Aren't we forgetting something?

Over the last year or three, with the Labour Party debt mountain in mind, they have been working hard behind the scenes to change the law on the financial liability of political parties, basically, changing the financial status of the communistas so that the leadership/membership is protected from personal liability.

What's the betting that within the next (or their last) 12 months, the regulations/formation of the party is formally changed, with legal backing - maybe even by a 'statutory instrument' for which there is no parliamentary oversight?
 
#17
Biped,

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest but someone must have Secretary status and remain liable. Who will sign up for that task?

BTW, can anyone tell me what the current Labour Party debt is? For me, a huge deficit is more proof that the Labour Party should not be trusted with the countries finances.

I do not trust businesses if they can't manage their own budget adequately; why should it be any different for the political parties?.
 
#18
Unison, one of the unions losing hosts of members through public sector job losses, currently donates £2million a year to the Labour Party. Its General Secretary, Dave Prentis, one of the cabal of extreme leftist cranks running the union, said there would be no more 'blank cheques' for Labour. The union says it is not breaking its alliance with the party, but it is concerned with the direction of policy, particularly the part-privatisation of Royal Mail. He said his members were tired of "feeding the hand that bites them".

Unison will only support prospective Labour candidates who were willing to stand up for its values of public service, he told the union's annual conference yesterday in Brighton.

He received a standing ovation from delegates when he called on the union's Labour Link section to suspend all constituency payments.

"Our people are crying out for change. But it's not about personalities. It's not about who's got the X-factor, or the nicest smile.

"It's about the policies this government and previous governments have pursued. Policies that are an anathema to the values of our union - values of social justice, public service, solidarity, responsibility, public accountability."

As Prentis pontificated it had been revealed elsewhere that as many as 350,000 public sector jobs will be lost within the next year as Britain faces total bankruptcy caused by years of staggeringly incompetent financial mismanagement.

The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) chief economist John Philpott said the recession will bring “a bloodbath in the public finances” which will force employers to slash their workforce. This could lead to “guerrilla war” in the workplace, he added.

“The CIPD’s current estimate is that the fiscal squeeze implied by government plans will result in a total of 350,000 job cuts in the public sector overall between 2010/11 and 2014/15.

“This will be preceded by around 30,000 job cuts in local authorities in the next year.

One can only wonder why Prentis didn’t refer to the massive job losses to come? Probably because he would have had to justify the unthinkable - breaking the link with ZaNuLiebour.
 

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