Unfeasibly expensive military history books?

#1
Looking round on Amazon and Abebooks I keep getting shocked at the prices that some sellers are demanding for out of print works of military history.

One of the books I've been looking at is "The Story of the Green Howards 1939-1945" by Captain W.A.T. Synge. £150 and up for a copy. Utter insanity!

What exactly is the score with getting books like this reprinted? Is it 70 years after the author's death that copyright lasts?

Regards
T_T
 
#2
That history of the SAS got pretty expensive if one went for the version with chapters only readable through PNVGs & bound in the skin of a dead Jundy :wink:
 

dockers

Old-Salt
Book Reviewer
#3
From P-01: UK Copyright Law fact sheet

The 1988 Copyright, Designs and Patents Act states the duration of copyright as;

[*]For literary, dramatic, musical or artistic works: 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies. If the author is unknown, copyright will last for 70 years from end of the calendar year in which the work was created, although if it is made available to the public during that time, (by publication, authorised performance, broadcast, exhibition, etc.), then the duration will be 70 years from the end of the year that the work was first made available.

[*]Sound Recordings and broadcasts: 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was created, or,
if the work is released within that time: 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was first released.

[*]Films: 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last principal director, author or composer dies.
If the work is of unknown authorship: 70 years from end of the calendar year of creation, or if made available to the public in that time, 70 years from the end of the year the film was first made available.

[*]Typographical arrangement of published editions: 25 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was first published.

[*]Broadcasts and cable programmes: 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the broadcast was made.

[*]Crown Copyright: Crown copyright will exist in works made by an officer of the Crown, this includes items such as legislation and documents and reports produced by government bodies. Crown Copyright will last for a period of 125 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was made. If the work was commercially published within 75 years of the end of the calendar year in which it was made, Crown copyright will last for 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which it was published.

[*]Parliamentary Copyright: Parliamentary Copyright will apply to work that is made by or under the direction or control of the House of Commons or the House of Lords and will last until 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was made.
 
#4
Indeed. As I suspected in copyright til 2038. A bit too long to wait methinks.

How would one go about obtaining permission for a reprint from the copyright holders?
 
#5
I thought it might be interesting to read the book 'The Odd Angry Shot' as I rather enjoyed the film - £98.89! OK, it's long out of print but OMG!!
 
#6
Looking round on Amazon and Abebooks I keep getting shocked at the prices that some sellers are demanding for out of print works of military history.

One of the books I've been looking at is "The Story of the Green Howards 1939-1945" by Captain W.A.T. Synge. £150 and up for a copy. Utter insanity!

What exactly is the score with getting books like this reprinted? Is it 70 years after the author's death that copyright lasts?

Regards
T_T
The Synge, for example: do you wish to own it or just read it?

If the latter your local library can maybe get you a copy, if there's one out there. They borrow from some places you might not think, including The British Library, and search through umpteen places beforehand. Costs half a quid, like, but you can usually borrow for a lot longer than the standard loan.

Some blokes have been talking about this, Post 28/29:

Looking for Green Howards photos/book recommendations - Page 3 - World War 2 Talk
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
the tech is there now that you can get any digitised book printed individually in paperback for the price of a hardback. I think there was company in thirsk who were trying to set something up.
 
#13
I don't know about the modern stuff but I just paid £35 for a book about the Austro-Prussian war of 1866. Mind you, the copy I have was printed in 1872, so at 140 years old it does have a certain value as an antique.

I wouldn't pay those prices for the modern stuff though.

You might want to contact Caliver books - the chap there deals with new and second hand books and his prices are pretty reasonable, particularly for some of the second hand stuff. He also sends out regular e-mails with lists of new stuff:

Welcome to Caliver Books

BTW their P&P is pretty good and they send the stuff PDQ as well!

Rodney2q
 
#15
Tartan Terrier -

Not sure how it works in UK but I can get books from any library in my US state for free 4 week loan. I looked online and discovered that a copy of the Green Howard book is in the "East Riding" library in the UK.

I know what you mean about prices though, military novels by Jean Larteguy are huge prices her in English language versions even for used paperbacks.
 
#16
Tartan Terrier -

Not sure how it works in UK but I can get books from any library in my US state for free 4 week loan. I looked online and discovered that a copy of the Green Howard book is in the "East Riding" library in the UK.

I know what you mean about prices though, military novels by Jean Larteguy are huge prices her in English language versions even for used paperbacks.
Christ on a jet powered crutch...2000 bucks for a copy of the Centurions...
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
#19
Like the OP I was looking for something in particular and couldn't believe the prices. Hunting like a bastard got me a clean h/b 1st ed for about £8 from the states. £13 postage still a bargain.
Try searching Barnes and Noble
 

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