Unexpected thieving in the bagging area

The reason you don't recall "vistas of Russian style bare shelves in the days before auto tills came into being" is because it didn't happen. No one said it happened, no one hinted it happened, no one even considered this event until you mentioned it....

The fact that you "doubt very much that there'll be more staff stacking shelves " doesn't make it so.
You're missing the point. The stores don't need more shelf stackers, they've always had adequate staff levels. Hence the Russian comparison. They have enough so aren't going to redeploy the ex till staff to shelf filling.

What it does do is render the check out staff superfluous so as they leave the staff head count is reduced and with it the wages bill. More profits Huzza!

If the shoplifting costs more than the saving in staff wages, pensions, training etc auto tills will be binned before you can say

'Shareholder's dividend'.
 
Not every trolley on scan as you shop is checked. A random few are or if someone thinks you're iffy a check can be forced on the system.
How did you know what my missus looks like? You've never met her!!
 
Self check outs are easy for the reasons laid out by others....worse than these are the Tesco 'Click and collect' stores. I went into my first one last week, never again.
I wasn't using the click and collect service, I was doing a normal shop. I was confronted with staff ramming the isles with giant blue shopping trolleys, parking them up and doing the shopping for the click and collectors...these staff were ignorant, talked loudly to each other and ignored the customers. One woman shoved me out of the way then apologized and explained she was trying to get something she was after. By the time I was finished, I was ready to punch the next tesco staff I saw so I just parked it up and went to the Morrisons next door instead, a much better class of peasantry.
 
I shop once, maybe twice a week, so there's usually a bottle of wine & several bottles of beer involved.
Tried the robotwat till once.
Scan wine: Wait for assistance.
Assistant arrives & OK's the purchase.
Tell assistant I have beer too as she wanders off but presumably she's deaf.
Scan beer: Wait for assistance.
Assistant arrives & OK's the purchase.
Point out I have several more beers, so she spends minutes trying to make the stupid system OK everything & in the end scans each bottle herself then wanders off.
Scan pair of nail scissors: Wait for assistance...

At this point, I walked over to her, where she was dealing with another pissed off punter & pointed out she'd need help putting my stuff back on the shelves as I'd had enough.
This was Tesco, who have now introduced a "steal what you like" system that involves customers scammnning their purchases with a gadget & having their card details registered.

I bet they're selling a lot of 'carrots'...
I get it in Home Depot (US B&Q) they have self service in a firkin building supplies store. Try self scanning half a dozen bags of cement, or half a dozen 2" x 8" x 10 foot lengths of timber.

At least Walmart have switched on some common sense and included the moveable hand scanners on their self service tills now.

To be honest though I prefer the self service tills as I get a modicum of control over the fresh fruit & veg and the frozen stuff. American supermarkets insist on bagging everything for you and the people they employ to do that are either professional morons or gifted amateurs bouncing or throwing the carefully selected items down the belt. Twice I have got so angry with the attitude, which continued even after pointing out the error of their ways to them, that I let them ring up everything and then told them I didn't want the stuff as they were treating it like crap, so if it is crap why would I want to buy it, and left. Everything still piled up on the till, queue of customers behind - then I go and tell the supervisor on the way out why I am leaving the shopping behind.
 
It's the future, half the decrepit old cnuts on here are living in a senile fueled time warp.
How very obliging of you. Tesco et al just love compliant people like you who actually believe that by adopting the retailers' preference you are being modern and cutting edge.

I actually think that if things were finessed (efficient stock control, no substitutions), online home delivery is the way forward. What makes more sense, forty family 4x4s on the road or one delivery van?

The big retailers would not be quite so keen on pushing this, as much of their revenue comes from impulse purchasing - another term for customer food wastage. That is best achieved by customer footfall through the doors.
 
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My missus went to Tesco's last week and tried out one of those gadgets where you scan the item as you put it in the trolley. The theory is that when you get to the self service checkout, you just pay straight away because everything is already registered on the gadget. You don't have to hang around doing it all again. Just pay and go.

Brilliant concept except for the fact that you can't go anywhere until a member of staff has rummaged through your shopping to check that you haven't slipped in items without registering them and thus not having to pay for them. Take into account that that single member of staff is checking the shopping going through several tills and you have to hang around until they finally get to you means that it's a longer process than just handing everything to a cashier like you used to do.

What's really happening is that Tesco's save money on staffing by having you do the work. The next logical thing is that they will be asking you to turn up early for your shopping trip so you can put the stuff on the shelves before you put it in your trolley.
The amount of times I put stuff back on shelves after it's fallen off, I should get paid...or sort out the handles of the wire baskets...I had a bit of fun today moving abandoned trollies. Next time I might just add afew random items to 'em as well ;)

Self-scan trillies_ there was some woman in the guardian going completely ballistic about being 'secondary screened' just because she was in waitrose. Masterpiece of outrage, torn apart in teh comments :)

EDIT:
Why was I humiliated by Waitrose self-scan check?

Zapped by Waitrose … with five re-scans and a red flag
 
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I get it in Home Depot (US B&Q) they have self service in a firkin building supplies store. Try self scanning half a dozen bags of cement, or half a dozen 2" x 8" x 10 foot lengths of timber.

At least Walmart have switched on some common sense and included the moveable hand scanners on their self service tills now.

To be honest though I prefer the self service tills as I get a modicum of control over the fresh fruit & veg and the frozen stuff. American supermarkets insist on bagging everything for you and the people they employ to do that are either professional morons or gifted amateurs bouncing or throwing the carefully selected items down the belt. Twice I have got so angry with the attitude, which continued even after pointing out the error of their ways to them, that I let them ring up everything and then told them I didn't want the stuff as they were treating it like crap, so if it is crap why would I want to buy it, and left. Everything still piled up on the till, queue of customers behind - then I go and tell the supervisor on the way out why I am leaving the shopping behind.
Mate, you'd love Lidl/Aldi over here...the 'post scan' area is approx 10"x10" and the till operator scans like a slip-fielding mofo (like the googly-eyed post-office alien in Men In Black 2). @jarrod248 knows the score.

They still manage to put bottles & breakables in a safe position. Your duty is to pack dat sh1t quick or dump it all back in a trolley/basket/cardboard box & sort it out on the little shelf running along the back of the shop. It sorts out the ditherers.
 
No. It's to validate that you are entitled to purchase the item VAT free in a VAT and duty free zone as you will be exporting it. They don't get anything back. Anyway, books and newspapers don't attract VAT, consumables like food are not included, and neither is any VATable service provided in the lounge.

VAT reclaims can only be made by persons permanently resident outside of the EU at the time of export, in accompanied hand or hold baggage and the goods and VATRES forms must be presented to a Customs Officer outbound on the day of departure. Furthermore a VAT Retail Export Scheme form must be completed by the retailer who must also be allowed to operate the scheme by HMRC.

The boarding card data is probably for research. Don't think the research is very good, as the Smith's in my airport sells (or doesn't) Yachting Monthly, Horse and Hound, and bizarrely, a range of Haynes manuals for Honda Civic, Fiat Punto and Renault Laguna etc. Not one aviation magazine though...?
Wrong.

This isn't the Duty Free shopping area; it's the WHSmiths etc. you see inside terminals' secure areas.

Airport VAT scam: What should I do if asked to show my boarding pass?
 
You're missing the point. The stores don't need more shelf stackers, they've always had adequate staff levels. Hence the Russian comparison. They have enough so aren't going to redeploy the ex till staff to shelf filling.
Quote your source please, otherwise its purely speculation
 
Wrong.

This isn't the Duty Free shopping area; it's the WHSmiths etc. you see inside terminals' secure areas.

Airport VAT scam: What should I do if asked to show my boarding pass?
Not really a ‘scam’

If annotated as an export transaction under which VAT or duty would have been liable then it can be used to remove the tax liability from the transaction.
That could mean you as a buyer pay less because it’s deducted from the price you pay, or it could mean you as a buyer pay the same price and they make extra profit

It may also just be used for their statistics

Back in the hey day of duty free booze cruises people got excited by duty free cigarettes and booze, but were generally paying more for funny sizes and the taxman didn’t get a cut
 
Pure speculation. Based on the premise that companies exist to maximise profits.

On the other hand what makes you think that the extra staff will be used as more shelf fillers?
 
Not really a ‘scam’

If annotated as an export transaction under which VAT or duty would have been liable then it can be used to remove the tax liability from the transaction.
That could mean you as a buyer pay less because it’s deducted from the price you pay, or it could mean you as a buyer pay the same price and they make extra profit

It may also just be used for their statistics

Back in the hey day of duty free booze cruises people got excited by duty free cigarettes and booze, but were generally paying more for funny sizes and the taxman didn’t get a cut
It's a scam because they don't pass on the saving to the customer.
 
Pure speculation. Based on the premise that companies exist to maximise profits.

On the other hand what makes you think that the extra staff will be used as more shelf fillers?
If they haven't been sacked they will not let them stand around smoking all day..... The deli/bread/fish/cheese counters are a bit specialised and not everyone will have driving licences for home delivery, so the majority will end up on the shopfloor, unless they get a cushy supervisor job....
 
Mate, you'd love Lidl/Aldi over here...the 'post scan' area is approx 10"x10" and the till operator scans like a slip-fielding mofo (like the googly-eyed post-office alien in Men In Black 2). @jarrod248 knows the score.

They still manage to put bottles & breakables in a safe position. Your duty is to pack dat sh1t quick or dump it all back in a trolley/basket/cardboard box & sort it out on the little shelf running along the back of the shop. It sorts out the ditherers.
Oh, we have Aldi here too; no different. One member of staff looking after the whole store and no space to juggle anything.


Note: If anyone wants an Aldi Texas bag giz a shout. I took a few over to Germany recently as jokey gizzits and you'd have thought I was giving away Gucci handbags - the wives all thought it would be cool to have a bag no one else had, strange, but happy wives, happy men.
 
It's a scam because they don't pass on the saving to the customer.
That doesn’t really make it a scam, there’s no con or fraud involved
If I buy one thing for £8, another for £5 and sell them both for £10 each then I have not scammed anyone, I’ve made a bigger margin of profit on one against the amount they were willing to pay
 
Pure speculation. Based on the premise that companies exist to maximise profits.

On the other hand what makes you think that the extra staff will be used as more shelf fillers?
Back in the last century supermarkets tended to have shelf stackers in the evenings and an amount of back warehouse space.
Longer opening hours & 24 hour opening, plus minimising warehouse space for maximum shop floor contributed to changing that
Ideally as deliveries occur the stock is shifted onto the shelves
Shelf stacking and till operators are now likely to be general shop duties with stacking / fronting up going on during the day - fronting up to keep the oldest stock at the front of the shelves
 
How very obliging of you. Tesco et al just love compliant people like you who actually believe that by adopting the retailers' preference you are being modern and cutting edge.

I actually think that if things were finessed (efficient stock control, no substitutions), online home delivery is the way forward. What makes more sense, forty family 4x4s on the road or one delivery van?

The big retailers would not be quite so keen on pushing this, as much of their revenue comes from impulse purchasing - another term for customer food wastage. That is best achieved by customer footfall through the doors.
You are very welcome, I'd rather go through the self service than wait in the line at the undermanned checkouts. Backward cnuts claiming robots taking jobs away etc, are just living in a time warp. It's the future embrace it.
 

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