Understanding Islam

#1
I found this quite an interesting read.

“Jihad ideology separates humanity into two hostile blocs: the community of Muslims (Dar ul-Islam), and the infidel non-Muslims (Dar ul-Harb). Allah commands the Muslims to conquer the entire world in order to rule it according to Koranic law. Hence Muslims must wage a perpetual war against those infidels who refuse to submit. This is the motivation for jihad. It is based on the inequality between the community of Allah and the infidels, as was re-emphasized in the Cairo Declaration. The first is a superior group, which must rule the world; the second must submit. The current relevance of this ideology is apparent, and disturbing.”
http://www.abelard.org/briefings/islamic-authoritarianism.asp#apostacy

So if you're not a Muslim, beware?
 
#2
Surely this falls within the strict definition of racism (strictly "racialism"):

Oxford English Dictionary said:
Belief in the superiority of a particular race leading to prejudice and antagonism towards people of other races, esp. those in close proximity who may be felt as a threat to one's cultural and racial integrity or economic well-being.
 
#3
You must recall however that Islam also recognises the existence of "peoples of the book" (al kitabi) - the Jews and the Christians - and their legitimacy as worshippers of the one God.

"Jihad theology" is really political rather than religious philosophy.
Fascinating to compare the current policy with that of the twelfth century rulers of the Spanish muslims for example. 8)
 
#4
Cuddles said:
You must recall however that Islam also recognises the existence of "peoples of the book" (al kitabi) - the Jews and the Christians - and their legitimacy as worshippers of the one God.
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Many Islamic extremists (yes, they have an extreme adaptation of the Qu'ran) are calling for a Jihad against the USA who are some of the strongest bible bashers on the face of our beloved green earth.

Just like Christianity is on the decline, I for one hope that the extreme adaptation of Islam is not on the increase. Then again, we did have the Christian Knights swarming across the lands killing the unbelievers not so long ago.....

Can't we all just get along?
 
#5
The more reasonable type of Muslim also recognises a third "bloc" - Dar-al-something-else, I don't remember the exact name. I think this is something to do with Judaeo-Christian societies in which Muslims may live in peace and are free to practise their religion in a climate of tolerance. I understand they are then obliged to return the favour, and obey the laws of the land.
 
#6
Point of Note: Jihad has two meaning in the Koran:

Greater Jihad. The challenge for every Muslim to fight a holy war, at personnel level, to achieve the true religion from within himself on a daily basis.

Lesser Jihad, is the fight to spread Islam. Whilst it is in the Koran it should be seen in the context of the wider meaning of Jihad, i.e. the Greater Jihad must come first as the little jihad will not succeed if the greater jihad fails.
 
#7
FunkyNewBlood said:
I found this quite an interesting read.

“Jihad ideology separates humanity into two hostile blocs: the community of Muslims (Dar ul-Islam), and the infidel non-Muslims (Dar ul-Harb). Allah commands the Muslims to conquer the entire world in order to rule it according to Koranic law. Hence Muslims must wage a perpetual war against those infidels who refuse to submit. This is the motivation for jihad. It is based on the inequality between the community of Allah and the infidels, as was re-emphasized in the Cairo Declaration. The first is a superior group, which must rule the world; the second must submit. The current relevance of this ideology is apparent, and disturbing.”
http://www.abelard.org/briefings/islamic-authoritarianism.asp#apostacy

So if you're not a Muslim, beware?
That is only an interpreatation of the rules of islam and as such is not practiced by the majority of believers. As such we shouldnt tar them all with the same brush, the same as we shouldnt tar all christians becuase of the actions of the IRA and UVF etc.
 
#8
yeah but the bible also says put to death everyone who blasphemes, does not worship god, watches daytime TV etc (er...can't remember the paragraph for the last one)
 
#9
PD, but at least we have progressed since the Bible was written. I did 9 years in mid east and they haven't the're still in stone age and the koran is taken as gospel word for word.
john
PS.
And could you tell the young lady to conntact me I have a load to deposit, mi balls are bursting.
 
#11
firestarter said:
PoisonDwarf said:
yeah but the bible also says put to death everyone who blasphemes, does not worship god, watches daytime TV etc (er...can't remember the paragraph for the last one)
BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY!!!!!

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/laws.htm
Read it, failed to be impressed!! Fortunately it has been some 400+ yrs since Christians burnt anyone at a stake for crimes of witchcraft of heresy. You can however always pop off to Saudi or Yemen for a good saturday afternoon stoning or beheading if you weren't able to get a ticket to the football.

Your argument falls flat on its face at that point! We as christians have adapted our interpretation of the bible to accomodate our more liberal lifestyle (Did I just hear a gurgle in PTP's pants 8O ) However our Middle Eastern Monotheologists have failed to progress at all.
 
#12
Letterwritingman said:
firestarter said:
PoisonDwarf said:
yeah but the bible also says put to death everyone who blasphemes, does not worship god, watches daytime TV etc (er...can't remember the paragraph for the last one)
BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY!!!!!

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/laws.htm[

1789 the last "witch" judicially killed in Scotland(by hanging).Look at "Christian Voice" and"Maggies Cancer Centres"for the impact of Xians on life today
 
#13
Letterwritingman said:
firestarter said:
PoisonDwarf said:
yeah but the bible also says put to death everyone who blasphemes, does not worship god, watches daytime TV etc (er...can't remember the paragraph for the last one)
BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY!!!!!

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/laws.htm
Read it, failed to be impressed!! Fortunately it has been some 400+ yrs since Christians burnt anyone at a stake for crimes of witchcraft of heresy. You can however always pop off to Saudi or Yemen for a good saturday afternoon stoning or beheading if you weren't able to get a ticket to the football.

Your argument falls flat on its face at that point! We as christians have adapted our interpretation of the bible to accomodate our more liberal lifestyle (Did I just hear a gurgle in PTP's pants 8O ) However our Middle Eastern Monotheologists have failed to progress at all.
http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/laws.htm[/quote]

Alpha and Omega,you cannot change what has been laid down if you truly believe this sh1te (as it says at the end of REVELATIONS)
 
#14
Letterwritingman said:
firestarter said:
PoisonDwarf said:
yeah but the bible also says put to death everyone who blasphemes, does not worship god, watches daytime TV etc (er...can't remember the paragraph for the last one)
BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY!!!!!

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/laws.htm
Read it, failed to be impressed!! Fortunately it has been some 400+ yrs since Christians burnt anyone at a stake for crimes of witchcraft of heresy. You can however always pop off to Saudi or Yemen for a good saturday afternoon stoning or beheading if you weren't able to get a ticket to the football.

Your argument falls flat on its face at that point! We as christians are preaching hypocritical cun*ts who should be disbelieved
 
#15
If a man or woman has sex with an animal, both human and animal must be killed
That half the forces and all of wales condemed then! mind you it might get rid of some of the saturday night munters from the clubs!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#16
I am preying for forgiveness.

Dear God..............hamster..................split.....................black nasty......................please forgive..........................I have sinned.....................blah blah..........amen :twisted:
 
#17
What a top web-site Firestarter...

I note that "Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)" Can we start with David Blain, please??
 

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