UN in secret peace talks with Taliban

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  1. So much for our glorious leader and the great London conference, now revealed as a largely worthless PR stunt mostly designed to manage UK public opinon pre election. Great.

    Kabul envoy met top commanders in Dubai this month to discuss terms.

    "Taliban commanders held secret exploratory talks with a United Nations special envoy this month to discuss peace terms, it emerged tonight.

    Regional commanders on the Taliban's leadership council, the Quetta Shura, sought a meeting with the UN special representative in Afghanistan, Kai Eide, and it took place in Dubai on 8 January. "They requested a meeting to talk about talks. They want protection, to be able to come out in public. They don't want to vanish into places like Bagram," the Reuters news agency quoted a UN official as saying, referring to the Bagram detention centre at a US military base outside Kabul.

    The Dubai meeting was confirmed to the Guardian by officials with knowledge of the encounter, but they said they could provide no further details.

    It was the first such meeting between the UN and senior members of the Taliban. The fact that it took place suggests that peace talks have revived since exploratory contacts between emissaries of the Kabul government and the Taliban in Saudi Arabia last year broke down.

    It also suggests that some Taliban members might be prepared for the first time to put faith in an international organisation to broker a deal to end the nine-year war.

    News of the Dubai meeting surfaced at the end of a day-long conference in London intended to map out a transition over five years from a Nato-led military campaign to Afghan-led effort involving more political, social and economic measures to end the fighting."


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/28/taliban-united-nations-afghanistan
     
  2. You seem to be missing the larger point, which is surely Good.
     
  3. Much as I detest Labour in any of it breeds I still believe that to get Peace you have to talk to the opposition.
    Also I have always said, long before the troops went into Ganistan, that paying the Taliban off was cheaper both in financial terms and certainly in Troops lives then deployment on the ground.
    Tony was looking for a popular war.
    Bribery is not nice, but in the exotic Orient it is a way of life.
    john
     
  4. Not at all. Indeed the UN entering into negotiations is a very significant development and the London conference could be seen as just another step.

    But the sight of Brown bigging his role up again at our collective expense and managing public expectations (all in advance of an election of course) is depressingly familiar and makes me gag. FFS even the BBC has picked up on it!

    "The conference is also serving another, less obvious, but vital purpose. It is to bolster public opinion, especially in Britain, which called for and hosted the event.

    If the public can see that there is a strategy and a way out, then they might more easily support the continued commitment of men and material to the conflict - and the sight of coffins coming home."


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8485881.stm
     
  5. The boy Milliband denied on Newsnight last night any such meeting had taken place. So they must have made a lot of progress then.
     
  6. ....or the UK Governemnt was not party to them and would want to deny such a meeting had taken place: it would be made to look very, very stupid because the London Conference would have been largely pointless.

    However, all this seems pretty specific rather than the normal stuff from "unnamed sources"

    "The unnamed UN official said that UN Special Representative Kai Eide had met with senior commanders of the Taliban in Dubai on January 8th, Reuters reported.

    The senior Afghan Taliban commanders who took part in the reported meeting are based in the southern Pakistani city of Quetta.

    The official says the high-level talks took place upon Taliban request.

    "They requested a meeting to talk about talks. They want protection, to be able to come out in public," the official said. "


    "Reconciliatory talks with the militant group revived since exploratory contacts between emissaries of the Afghan government and the Taliban were made in Saudi Arabia last year.

    The United Nations has removed several former Taliban officials from its blacklist in Afghanistan on Tuesday."


    http://news.google.co.uk/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q=un%20talks%20with%20taliban
     
  7. How about they give up Bin Liner as a token of peace if this is the route the cnuts in charge here take??