UK's "Biggest Stag" shot on Exmoor

#21
(edited to add: don't have a problem with dropping stags, but don't do it in a way that's going to pi55 off a load of people and get us bad PR)
They don't need much help for that. I once sat in the Carew Arms in Crowcombe listening to the head of the Quantock Hunt (neighbouring hills to Exmoor) where she shouted to the rafters about how it was her God-given right to hunt animals wherever and whenever she pleased, in what ever manner that she pleased. This at a time when in the previous year
1) one local hunt had been photographed digging up a fox den and throwing a young fox to the dogs
2) rather than back off, a Stag had been chased of a cliff where it spattered all over the rocks beneath
3) a stag had been chased into a village and found itself on a persons roof. When the hunt proceeded onto private property still hoping to bag it, the elderly owner came out with her shot gun and politely asked them to leave.

Pure ******* arrogance. Take it to a range if you must fire a weapon, do hunts with false scent if you enjoy the chase, but there is nothing so abhorrent as to take pleasure from taking the life of an animal.
 
#22
Rarely have I heard such an outbreak of toilet-licking mongery in a section usually frequented by normal people.

One large, dominant stag. Huge numbers of offspring. Is it good for the health of the herd for 'the Emperor' to be ******* his daughters and granddaughters-that-are-daughters-as-well? Once past his best, should he be culled or be left to be defeated and driven out by other stags coming up behind him?

And if there were no possibility of getting some income from the red deer that take great amounts of forage and crops, there would be no deer management - they would be treated as pests and virtually wiped out. It was however very poor management to leave the corpse where it was, which has resulted in millions of chavs up and down the land bursting in to tears on their sofas, even as they stuff their bloated, halfwitted faces with factory-farmed chicken ******* nuggets.
 
#23
Rarely have I heard such an outbreak of toilet-licking mongery in a section usually frequented by normal people.

One large, dominant stag. Huge numbers of offspring. Is it good for the health of the herd for 'the Emperor' to be ******* his daughters and granddaughters-that-are-daughters-as-well? Once past his best, should he be culled or be left to be defeated and driven out by other stags coming up behind him?

And if there were no possibility of getting some income from the red deer that take great amounts of forage and crops, there would be no deer management - they would be treated as pests and virtually wiped out. It was however very poor management to leave the corpse where it was, which has resulted in millions of chavs up and down the land bursting in to tears on their sofas, even as they stuff their bloated, halfwitted faces with factory-farmed chicken ******* nuggets.
And the bit highlighted above actually has you in agreement with those you accuse of "toilet-licking mongery"? I don't think that the majority disagree with the cull (or even hunting) ... just the waste of an animal for the sake of a trophy.
 
#24
.. just the waste of an animal for the sake of a trophy.
Not really - as meat, an old stag would be worth about fifteen quid, even outside the rut (during the rut, stags taste so bad even the crows think twice); as a trophy of that magnitude, probably about three thou or maybe a bit more for 'the Emperor.' If there were no money in it there would be no, or very few, deer on Exmoor.
 
#25
Not really - as meat, an old stag would be worth about fifteen quid, even outside the rut (during the rut, stags taste so bad even the crows think twice); as a trophy of that magnitude, probably about three thou or maybe a bit more for 'the Emperor.' If there were no money in it there would be no, or very few, deer on Exmoor.
My dogs would have eaten it.
 
#27
One large, dominant stag. Huge numbers of offspring. Is it good for the health of the herd for 'the Emperor' to be ******* his daughters and granddaughters-that-are-daughters-as-well? Once past his best, should he be culled or be left to be defeated and driven out by other stags coming up behind him?

God knows how Mother Nature coped before the advent of the Great White Hunter!
 
#28
Welcome to cynical news management, and a small group of people with an agenda to push:

Read this, from just over a year ago:

Largest wild animal in Britain is 300lb, 9ft stag: the Exmoor Emperor - Telegraph

Yep - same photographer, same 'expert' saying the self same stag was in its prime and not going back, having to keep the location secret, etc.

Too many coincidences!

where's the carcass? wheres the photos of the hunters - something very dodgy going on here

so, IMO - what we can see is either someone pushing an agenda, selling himself, or someone trying to sell his photos...
 
#29
And if a few people had watched the 6'o'clock news on the Beeb,they would have found out that,the locals who heard the shots,later saw the carcass of a deer being winched onto the back of a pickup?

Whilst it might not be agreeable to some people,shooting the animal was more humane than chasing the thing to death,as was done back in the day,and given the amount of damage done by deer to woodlands,and crops,well they're fair game (excuse the pun).
 
#30
Shooting/hunting not my game, but having read some of the posters on here and having a good friend in Canada who loves his hunting, I can only notice that they aren't unhinged people, but instead follow an etiquette peculiar to themselves.

Outsiders seem to take the view they're are all evil animal killers without finding the full facts. Now the emporer has been shot, should we have a thread on banning all firearms?

The news has just mentioned the shooting was perfectly legal.

The only hunting I ever disagreed with was fox hunting. Not because of the poxy fox, but because of the pompous cnuts in the hunt.
 
#31
God knows how Mother Nature coped before the advent of the Great White Hunter![/QUOTE]

I would suggest the numbers would have been controlled by natural predators sadly no longer resident in this country or the majority of western Europe for that matter due to man making room for farms and livestock for the human race. Feel free to stop eating if you feel that guilty.

Deer control is necessary whether you agree with it or not. As for somebody paying to cull the beast, what is the big deal? Fishing and shooting sports brings a massive amount of money into the rural economy which assists with the upkeep of estates and parks which wouldn't be able to operate without the extra income.

As for the meat being wasted, not a chance. Germany takes heaps of venison at this time for sausages etc.
 
#32
Deer control is necessary whether you agree with it or not.
I appreciate that. I'm not some bleeding heart liberal vegan, I'm involved in food production.

I just can't get my head round shooting animals for 'sport'. This is one step above 'caged' hunts.

Just my personal opinion.
 

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#33
To answer the original poster, every fule no that the biggest reds are in Thetford. That is a fact, but lets not let auntie get a fact rigght eh! Also if you go to Scotland during the year you will find ramblers ignoring signs asking them to stay of certain hills as the cull figures (imposed by the Scottish Govt) are higher than ever and needed to be worked on, these ramblers then proceed to deliberatley disrupt a legal activity which means that the DCS fly in marksmen and bill the land owner. Thats Socialism at work for you!
Dont even get me started on trespass in English woodlands!
 

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