UKIP having a cow about "folded" ballot papers

#1
Wave of complaints at ballot paper blunder

Thursday, 4th June 2009

"UKIP is being inundated with calls from voters complaining that UKIP is not
on the ballot paper.


Voting has only been going on for three hours and already hundreds are calling the UK Independence Party to complain that they were not able to vote for the party.

The problem is that Returning Officers have been folding the ballot papers.
They have been folding them so that the last two, three or four parties in alphabetical order are hidden when the first fold of the paper is opened. It thus appears that UKIP is not on the ballot paper.

UKIP has already contacted both the Electoral Commission and the Returning Officers on this matter.

But it is important that the news gets out: that voters must make sure they completely unfold the ballot paper. And that Returning Officers and electoral officials must stop folding the ballot papers.

We have had reports from Carlisle, from York, from Hampshire, Dartford and other places, showing that the problem is nationwide, not just an isolated incident.

UKIP is collecting the names and addresses of those complaining and will be preparing the grounds for a legal challenge to the election result."


http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1119-wave-of-complaints-at-ballot-paper-blunder

Tinfoil hats on.
 
#2
Fixing the ballots? The final step to becoming a banana republic has been achieved. Long live zanu-labour! Install Brown as for PM for life!
 
#4
This could be avoided, of course, by only allowing those people who are intelligent enough to fully unfold a piece of paper the right to vote.
 
#5
If someone doesnt have the intelligence to unfold a ballot paper then they should step away from the polling booth
 
#6
drain_sniffer said:
If someone doesnt have the intelligence to unfold a ballot paper then they should step away from the polling booth
Oh right, so potential atempts at vote manipulating should not be investigated then?
 
#8
UKIP is collecting the names and addresses of those complaining and will be preparing the grounds for a legal challenge to the election result."
Translation - when we do less well than we thought (as the recent polls suggest we might), we will waste taxpayers' money on a legal challenge to keep our name in the headlines, using the rationale that it was electoral fraud rather than the fact that some people are too stupid to unfold a piece of paper.

Jagman - unless the returning officers have carried out some bizarre form of origami making the folds difficult to detect, folding ballot papers horizontally once or twice to reduce the length, making them easier to handle when taking them to the polling booth is not contrary to the rules. I also find it hard to imagine how voters can miss a fold in a ballot paper.
 
#9
jagman said:
Blogg said:
Tinfoil hats on.
Why tinfoil hats? If it is a legitimate concern then UKIP every right to raise the issue.
After all, this country isn't imune to electoral fraud is it?
Because it would amount to a stunning bit of foot shooting :lol:

"Labour risks losing votes in the European elections on Thursday as a result of a monumental blunder in organisation, party insiders claim.

They are anger that Labour appears 11th on the ballot paper, behind Scottish Socialists and Socialist Labour, and claim that hundreds of votes could be lost because of voter confusion.

Under new electoral rules political parties had to register for Thursday’s vote using their UK-registered names. The Scottish Conservatives appear simply as Conservatives on the paper. Likewise, the Liberal Democrats have dropped the word “the”, putting them nearer the top of the paper, which is in alphabetical order. However, Labour appears as “The Labour Party”.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6410707.ece
 
T

trowel

Guest
#10
Going to vote now. I will pay particular attention to the "Origamists" hanging about looking furtive.
 

Alsacien

MIA
Moderator
#11
jagman said:
drain_sniffer said:
If someone doesnt have the intelligence to unfold a ballot paper then they should step away from the polling booth
Oh right, so potential atempts at vote manipulating should not be investigated then?
You must really be paranoid if you see this as some deliberate attempt to manipulate voting.

Pubs are open, go get a pint and relax mate :wink:
 
#12
jockass said:
Fixing the ballots? The final step to becoming a banana republic has been achieved. Long live zanu-labour! Install Brown as for PM for life!
Gordons seen it work his mate Bob Mug and with the amount of shite he's in, it's worth him giving it a crack..
 
#13
theoriginalphantom said:
This could be avoided, of course, by only allowing those people who are intelligent enough to fully unfold a piece of paper the right to vote.
Well quite. I'm totally unable to function before midday, but even I, at 0715 today, worked out that the ballot paper needed unfolding. I've no doubt there will be the usual complaints when people realise that they need to put a X in the box instead of a tick... :roll:
 
#14
Forget the outrage bus, we need a mong mobile
 
#15
This is quite incredible!

Just how STOOPID is the UK electorate?

You are looking for UKIP and can't find it because it's hidden so deceptively by a fold! Just how stoopid do you have to be to qualify as a UKIP supporter?
 
#16
The outright stupidity of some people never fails to amaze me. Have they really never encountered a folded piece of paper before? Do they only read the front and back pages of a newspaper?
Perhaps UKIP attracts a disproportionate number of mouth breathing morons.
 
#18
Blogg said:
jagman said:
Blogg said:
Tinfoil hats on.
Why tinfoil hats? If it is a legitimate concern then UKIP every right to raise the issue.
After all, this country isn't imune to electoral fraud is it?
Because it would amount to a stunning bit of foot shooting :lol:

"Labour risks losing votes in the European elections on Thursday as a result of a monumental blunder in organisation, party insiders claim.

They are anger that Labour appears 11th on the ballot paper, behind Scottish Socialists and Socialist Labour, and claim that hundreds of votes could be lost because of voter confusion.

Under new electoral rules political parties had to register for Thursday’s vote using their UK-registered names. The Scottish Conservatives appear simply as Conservatives on the paper. Likewise, the Liberal Democrats have dropped the word “the”, putting them nearer the top of the paper, which is in alphabetical order. However, Labour appears as “The Labour Party”.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6410707.ece
Oops, wasn't aware of that one :D

Alsacien said:
You must really be paranoid if you see this as some deliberate attempt to manipulate voting.

Pubs are open, go get a pint and relax mate :wink:
Firstly, I don't drink but I do smoke, therefor pubs aren't the place for me!
Secondly, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
Thirdly, I don't think taking allegations of vote manipulation seriously is paranoia. It doesn't actually matter how trivial it seems (more so the better if you are the one fiddling I suppose), elections must be visibly clean and fair. This is the UK after all and not some banana republic, despite the best efforts of our rather embarassing politicians.
If there is an allegation that something is happening that will unfairly bias the election results then it must be investigated.
 

copepod

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#19
I had a postal vote - and managed to unfold the ballot papers in order to vote. As European election ballot paper was about 50cm long, with about 15 parties listed, I can't see how else it could have been posted, without incurring very high postal charges.
 

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