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Can anyone explain this to me which is posted on indeed, I.e. PAYE & PAYE rolled up or is it just a con & tye rate is 14.5?

Pay Rates:

We can offer the following pay rates on this contract (on PAYE basis including holiday pay):

Days:

  • PAYE (accrue holiday on top): £14.50ph
  • PAYE Rolled up (includes holiday pay and additional to cover deductions in hourly rate): £18.50ph
Nights:

  • PAYE (accrue holiday on top) : £16.00ph
  • PAYE Rolled up (includes holiday pay and additional to cover deductions in hourly rate) : £20.00ph
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It is legal I believe, provided there is provision for workers actully taking holiday time off.

Basically the rolled up rate means that instead of taking paid holiday time you only get paid for the hours you do and your holiday entitlement is paid within that

It works for some people (it would work for me, I never use my full holiday entitlement) and lots of drivers aren't fussed bout having lots of time off and woul rather earn as much as they can
 

RTU'd

LE
Thanks for flagging that up. Could've ended badly.

I'm now using these:

Spoke to Kim herself about an hour ago and like what she has to say. She's even given me a discount for being ex-Mil.

And an added bonus is that they're local to me.

This is an entirely new profession for me, so I'm very appreciative of all of the advice and guidance given by those that are already doing it. Thanks troops.
Good luck.

Sadly brokers often offer loads before you pay but in reality deliver jack once you have.

I have only ever used 2 HGV/LGV Schools.
National Driving Centre in Croydon & EP Training in Bookham, Surrey.
Initial HGV in Croydon, could not fault the training but it was back in 1995.
Sean @ EP offers 1st class training, reasonable prices but you pay for what you get!

The truckers forums offer good specialised advice on training & courses.
Have been on www.trucknetuk.com for some 11 years & good advice offered from Diesel Dave.
 

2000AD

Old-Salt
Good luck.

Sadly brokers often offer loads before you pay but in reality deliver jack once you have.

I have only ever used 2 HGV/LGV Schools.
National Driving Centre in Croydon & EP Training in Bookham, Surrey.
Initial HGV in Croydon, could not fault the training but it was back in 1995.
Sean @ EP offers 1st class training, reasonable prices but you pay for what you get!

The truckers forums offer good specialised advice on training & courses.
Have been on www.trucknetuk.com for some 11 years & good advice offered from Diesel Dave.
I used J Coates as they are one of the nearest to me in Leicester. First time pass on Cat C, took 2 attempts on C+E but that wasn't anyone elses fault but mine as I drove beyond the A posts taking a shunt on the reverse. Good instructors IMHO, knowledgable and patient. Did my CPC and ADR through them as well. Similar rates to anywhere else I looked at too.

The examiners at Leicester were reasonable bods too. Didn't make me feel ill at ease at all which is always a bonus after my experiences years ago being scrutinised by MTO's when taking mil driving tests
 

Daz

LE
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It is legal I believe, provided there is provision for workers actully taking holiday time off.

Basically the rolled up rate means that instead of taking paid holiday time you only get paid for the hours you do and your holiday entitlement is paid within that

It works for some people (it would work for me, I never use my full holiday entitlement) and lots of drivers aren't fussed bout having lots of time off and woul rather earn as much as they can
The £14.50 rate + holiday pay should work out around £16.51 (Holiday pay at 13.8%) I wonder where the extra is coming from and what exactly is the uplift to cover the deductions in the hourly rate, not to mention, what the deductions are
 
The £14.50 rate + holiday pay should work out around £16.51 (Holiday pay at 13.8%) I wonder where the extra is coming from and what exactly is the uplift to cover the deductions in the hourly rate, not to mention, what the deductions are


In truth I don't know either.

I do know that if we offered to buy drivers out of holiday entitlement a fair percentage would jump at the chance.
 
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It is legal I believe, provided there is provision for workers actully taking holiday time off.

Basically the rolled up rate means that instead of taking paid holiday time you only get paid for the hours you do and your holiday entitlement is paid within that

It works for some people (it would work for me, I never use my full holiday entitlement) and lots of drivers aren't fussed bout having lots of time off and woul rather earn as much as they can
So for someone like me, retired, looking for casual shifts as & when it seems like a winner. Cheers for the info..
 

BaldBaBoon

War Hero
Can anyone explain this to me which is posted on indeed, I.e. PAYE & PAYE rolled up or is it just a con & tye rate is 14.5?

Pay Rates:

We can offer the following pay rates on this contract (on PAYE basis including holiday pay):

Days:

  • PAYE (accrue holiday on top): £14.50ph
  • PAYE Rolled up (includes holiday pay and additional to cover deductions in hourly rate): £18.50ph
Nights:

  • PAYE (accrue holiday on top) : £16.00ph
  • PAYE Rolled up (includes holiday pay and additional to cover deductions in hourly rate) : £20.00ph
This is BaldBaBoon's wife Nikki replying to this.
Hi
They changed the rules a few years back and told agencies that they had to pay holiday pay.
Essentially the rate of pay over the year is the same. It's about timing of payments and whether you want a regular weekly pay check every week or whether you take the higher rate and don't get any pay at all on the holiday weeks.

Another way to explain it:
The higher rolled up includes your holiday pay, so if you take the higher rate, when you don't work (book holiday) and don't submit a time sheet, you don't get paid.
The lower accrued holiday rate means that when you don't work (on holiday) they will pay you the lower rate as your holiday pay.

Hope that helps.
 
This is BaldBaBoon's wife Nikki replying to this.
Hi
They changed the rules a few years back and told agencies that they had to pay holiday pay.
Essentially the rate of pay over the year is the same. It's about timing of payments and whether you want a regular weekly pay check every week or whether you take the higher rate and don't get any pay at all on the holiday weeks.

Another way to explain it:
The higher rolled up includes your holiday pay, so if you take the higher rate, when you don't work (book holiday) and don't submit a time sheet, you don't get paid.
The lower accrued holiday rate means that when you don't work (on holiday) they will pay you the lower rate as your holiday pay.

Hope that helps.
Appreciate that, thanks. Ideal for me as a casual wanting the odd shift here & there.
 

enpointe

Old-Salt
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Nobody is going to do town centre deliveries wrestling cages across pavements and trying to double park for £10 per hour when they can do factory to RDC for £14 per hour and all they have to do to unload is sit in a waiting area.

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especially when they can get 10. 50 / hr + shift allowance + 1 gbp/ hr peak bonus + 50 quid / week if you don;t have any unplanned absence over the peak period + a roundign up payment to take that to a grand) sat on the fork lift at the RDC ( and 21 quid an hour overtime)
 
We pay our agency workers in Ireland holiday pay rolled up but in Sweden it's the old fashioned way of accruing it.
 
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