UK to purchase 2 Littoral Strike Ships

#41
"Sovereign lethal amphibious force, One of the best forces in the world, A reign of terror down enemy coasts". Whatever this brainless C**T is on please take him off it, dry him out and then find him a job doing something safe, like collecting second hand stamps for charity. It really does make you wonder how stupid you have to be to become a politician.
 
#42
I think that's a pic of one the yank ones, dunno if we are doing a direct purchase from them or designing/building our own.
Since the models on deck depict CH-53E/K gives one an indication of the size so easily operate Junglie Mk4 Merlin and Chinook ....and maybe some interoperability with our cousins across the pond. Tbh what would have been more convincing is a model of MV-22B.

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#45
Defence Secretary reveals future assault ship plan | Royal Navy

So are they replacing the LPDs or augmenting them? Are they being ordered or considered? Can they support LCUs with a well dock? Do we have enough amphibious lift? Can they act as an ASW platform (if we had enough Merlin HM2/Wildcat HMA)?

Most of all, what about those extra 1500 people we desperately need?
 
#47
Yeah, he wasn't listening close enough

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When was the last time we had enough commandos together to even use all our amphibious lift capacity? There is a reason we can have an LPD laid up, sold off two of 6 point class and have 2 of three bay classes doing other stuff (hunting druggies/disaster relief and mine hunter support).

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They would be a great addition to joint ops in the Pacific. If you don't have the escorts for the new Amphibs you will need to get them from either the USN, JMSDF, or the RAN. So welcome to the team!!
I think the RN's plan is to "Uber" escorts and other support ships as they sail around the world.
 
#51
I think the RN's plan is to "Uber" escorts and other support ships as they sail around the world.
I may be a land lubber, but these ships are going to do not one damn bit of good if they are sunk 300 miles away from their objective. If the RN does not have enough escorts for their carriers, these new ships are just going to further drain and divide resources to be flung to the far corners of the earth.

I do wonder if the USMC could use them though....?? You know joint exercises and such.
 
#52
Too bad they didn't go for a couple of our existing Littoral Combat Ships. ;)

Though when I first quickly glanced at the title, I did a double take thing they actually did...
 
#53
Too bad they didn't go for a couple of our existing Littoral Combat Ships. ;)

Though when I first quickly glanced at the title, I did a double take thing they actually did...

Well cheap escorts would help out tremendously, because without them. They won't be striking in the littorals, but reduced to flag waiving and disaster relief ops.
 
#54
I may be a land lubber, but these ships are going to do not one damn bit of good if they are sunk 300 miles away from their objective. If the RN does not have enough escorts for their carriers, these new ships are just going to further drain and divide resources to be flung to the far corners of the earth.

I do wonder if the USMC could use them though....?? You know joint exercises and such.
The Royal Navy could generate more escorts, but that would mean giving them a manpower uplift. All apparently agreed to in 2015, then the Prime Minister had a wobble.

Sort it out, Mr Williamson. Also, since you want us Reservist types to man those OPVs, can we have more RSDs please? Thank you.
 
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I may be a land lubber, but these ships are going to do not one damn bit of good if they are sunk 300 miles away from their objective. If the RN does not have enough escorts for their carriers, these new ships are just going to further drain and divide resources to be flung to the far corners of the earth.

I do wonder if the USMC could use them though....?? You know joint exercises and such.

Forward based in friendly ports.....
They’re for raiding, not invading.

“Our Future Littoral Strike Ships will routinely be forward deployed, hosting tailored, high readiness forces to provide persistent presence in areas of strategic national interest.”
Admiral Sir Philip Jones, First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff
 
#56
Well cheap escorts would help out tremendously, because without them. They won't be striking in the littorals, but reduced to flag waiving and disaster relief ops.
How will cheap escorts help? Isnt part of the problem being that you need expensive ones to survive in the modern littoral enviroment?

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How will cheap escorts help? Isnt part of the problem being that you need expensive ones to survive in the modern littoral enviroment?

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Well how are unescorted Amphibs going to survive? They won’t have much in the way of point defenses and no capabilities against submarines. Frigates would be nice, they are general purpose escorts and cheaper than a modern DDG.
 
#59
Well how are unescorted Amphibs going to survive? They won’t have much in the way of point defenses and no capabilities against submarines. Frigates would be nice, they are general purpose escorts and cheaper than a modern DDG.
My point is that cheap frigates are unlikely to survive either. Should we spend that money on cheaper ships or invest in gaining one or two more higher end vessels to ship classes already planned etc. This is the continuing discussion on the High low mix, what risks we are willing to take and when we are actually going to be able to say what area is too dangerous to operate in.

How cheap are you talking? Cos really its likely to not be cheap if you want it to do anything.



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Forward based in friendly ports.....
They’re for raiding, not invading.

“Our Future Littoral Strike Ships will routinely be forward deployed, hosting tailored, high readiness forces to provide persistent presence in areas of strategic national interest.”
Admiral Sir Philip Jones, First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff

That's quite a long winded way of saying we'll dock our ferry in a port.

Who knew? Right?
 

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