UK to offer asylum to Roma driven out by Italian Fascists

#1
This week’s assaults on Roma shanty towns by scores of youths on scooters and motorbikes wielding iron bars and throwing Molotov cocktails were sparked off by the capture of a seventeen-year-old Roma girl who last weekend entered a flat in Ponticelli and tried to steal a six-year-old baby girl. Chased by the mother and neighbours, she had to be rescued by police from being lynched.

The city erupted in fury, with local women leading the marches on the Roma camps to the chant of “Fuori, fuori [Out, out]” and “go home, dirty child stealers”. Night after night young men — allegedly acting on the orders of powerful local clans of the Camorra, the Naples Mafia — have set the sites ablaze, blocking attempts by the fire brigade to put out the fires, with exploding gas canisters competing the destruction. The women jeered at the firemen, shouting, ”You put these fires out, we start them again”.

Plumes of smoke were still rising yesterday from the smouldering, blackened ruins of a Roma gypsy camp attacked and burnt to the ground by local vigilantes in Ponticelli, a rundown industrial suburb in the east of Naples in the shadow of Mount Vesuvius.

A stream of hundreds of Roma families have fled for their lives with their belongings piled on to small pick-up trucks or handcarts like war refugees. Some have been taken under police protection to a former school used to house illegal immigrants in a northern Naples suburb.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3940192.ece
 
#2
UK to offer asylum to Roma driven out of Italy by mobs
could you please point out to me where this was mentioned in the article?
i must be going blind 'caus i couldnt see it.

or did you choose this particular thread title just to get attention and start off another xenophobic bandwagon?
 
#4
DrStealth

Good point but the Rumanian Prime Minister has been on Iti TV stating that the "Crack down” is against human and more importantly their EU rights. Rumanians can move and work freely within the EU.

However to work in Italy “legally” you need a Permesso Surjourno, or since last year Residency papers and a Codici Fiscali ( For customs purposes or supposedly for buying anything)

Unlike the UK EU folks cannot just turn up and get NI cards given to them.

Italy does have a get out clause to prevent illegal EU citizens from staying – just until now the political will has not been there to enforce it.

Give it a few weeks and it will all settle down, just like always.
 
#5
DrStealth said:
UK to offer asylum to Roma driven out of Italy by mobs
could you please point out to me where this was mentioned in the article?
i must be going blind 'caus i couldnt see it.

or did you choose this particular thread title just to get attention and start off another xenophobic bandwagon?
The asylum petition is being dealt with by a group of left leaning UK lawyers and Guardianista types, they are opposed to Silvio Berlusconi on principle and see his partnership with the Italian Right as the new rise of Fascism.

By seeking refuge for the Roma in the UK under the Human Rights act, as victims of violent ‘State sanctioned Racism’. This group believe that they are making a stand against Fascism (yeah man! Spirit of ’65, 'they shall not pass' etc) , deluded and counterproductive – yes. However within the law they have an almost 95% chance of success.

How do I know? The Wife works with them.
 
#6
armchair_jihad said:
The asylum petition is being dealt with by a group of left leaning UK lawyers and Guardianista types, they are opposed to Silvio Berlusconi on principle and see his partnership with the Italian Right as the new rise of Fascism.
By seeking refuge for the Roma in the UK under the Human Rights act, as victims of violent ‘State sanctioned Racism’. This group believe that they are making a stand against Fascism (yeah man! Spirit of ’65, 'they shall not pass' etc) , deluded and counterproductive – yes. However within the law they have an almost 95% chance of success.

How do I know? The Wife works with them.
ty for the info.
may i add that it should have been included in your original post.
 
#7
Off again are we A_J? You really must stop stirring up the natives.

There is a long and no doubt lucrative career writing headlines for the Daily Mail just waiting for you to grasp it. :D
 
#8
I don't understand, on what grounds are they considered "refugees": how can you be a refugee from a country that was not yours in a first place? :?
 
#9
I for one would be delighted to offer sancutary in this country for the poor, oppressed Roma...

"This way, please. Yes, just step into this large SHOWER ROOM. We have to PURIFY you before you can settle in Britain..." :twisted:
 
#10
old_bloke said:
DrStealth

Good point but the Rumanian Prime Minister has been on Iti TV stating that the "Crack down” is against human and more importantly their EU rights. Rumanians can move and work freely within the EU.

However to work in Italy “legally” you need a Permesso Surjourno, or since last year Residency papers and a Codici Fiscali ( For customs purposes or supposedly for buying anything)

Unlike the UK EU folks cannot just turn up and get NI cards given to them.

Italy does have a get out clause to prevent illegal EU citizens from staying – just until now the political will has not been there to enforce it.

Give it a few weeks and it will all settle down, just like always.
I don't think that's technically true, we have deported lot's of EU citizens from here, the Italians even took a case to the court's, where it was said you could deportpeople from other EU states as long as you were not "discriminatory" so out of 100 you kick out 98 Roma, 1 German and a Welsh guy called Gwyn, and your legally sound :D
 
#11
FrankCastle said:
I for one would be delighted to offer sancutary in this country for the poor, oppressed Roma...

"This way, please. Yes, just step into this large SHOWER ROOM. We have to PURIFY you before you can settle in Britain..." :twisted:
You'd need to force them. Ther's no way a gippo would voluntarily take a shower (unless he could sell it) :D
 

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#12
Just do some crop rotation and place them in fields of heather . . . . .













. . . . . and then tell them to 'be lucky' when you set it alight.
 
#13
Ex_ex said:
FrankCastle said:
I for one would be delighted to offer sancutary in this country for the poor, oppressed Roma...

"This way, please. Yes, just step into this large SHOWER ROOM. We have to PURIFY you before you can settle in Britain..." :twisted:
You'd need to force them. Ther's no way a gippo would voluntarily take a shower (unless he could sell it) :D
Nice one! You can be Camp Commendant when I set this up - just imagine; sunny evenings shooting Gipos from the upper floors of the Officers Mess, just like in Schindlers List! :twisted:

"Good shot, old boy! Barman - the next rounds on me?" :D
 
#14
The Roma have their uses. We have just had oneof our bi-annual bulk rubbish days whereby you can leave literally anything outside your house and the council will come and collect it. In the few hours before the council get round to collectiion, the Roma take most of it away in trabants/horse and carts/bicycles/shanksy's/their womenfolk/Mercs and very little remains therefore lessening the councils work and ergo my council tax [£75 A YEAR]. BTW it's the only time I see them in the village.
 
#15
Oddly enough, I was reading a bit in the paper today about an Italian, flying in to visit his American girlfriend, who'd been detained by the US Border Protection Agency at Dulles airport, accused of being an "asylum seeker".

As his girlfriend said, after they'd sprung him from over 10 days in the pokey, and I'd already wondered myself:

"The border patrol officer said to my face that Domenico said he would be killed if he went back to Italy," she recalled, voicing incredulity that, in his halting English, he could express such a thought. "Also, who on earth would ever seek asylum from Italy?"
Well, now you know.

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#16
exile1 said:
The Roma have their uses.
Indeed it’s not often understood by those who criticize the prejudice in the Balkan’s Bulgaria and Romania against the Roma, that when these Countries were subject to the Ottoman Empire (The Turks) the Roma were used as ‘Judicial auxiliaries’, in that they were employed by the Empire exclusively as jailors, torturers and executioners. The positions usually being hereditary to Roma clans.

Under the Ottoman ‘pseudo Islamic’ legal code that meant that for non payment of taxes/fines, theft, looking the wrong way, insulting Islam, fermenting unrest, being Serb etc. It would be Roma who would cart you and probably your family away, torture you and probably them, act as turnkey and executioner.

These folk memories are very long in that part of Europe, thus while many Western Liberals were surprised by the KLA targeting of Roma after liberation, others were not. After a few hundred years of that your Grandma would probably pass on a few tales to you.

NB All Albanians were actually Catholic until the Ottoman Inquisition (Roma enforced) made most realise that it was Islam or a slow death.
 
#17
Burn them all...do as you likeys are do as you likeys, whether they intimidate you into having your drive done or buying lucky heather in English or Italian...
 
#19
Between Italy and the UK there are several other countries and a big bit of water so why the UK for arrseylum?

I'm now beginning to believe the EU make decisions based on board games during tea break. Asylum policy decisions are made on a Snakes & Ladders board, you get to square 99 then all the shite slides way down the snakes, past other EU countries with guarded ladders before settling onto square one, the UK.
 
#20
I still don't understand why they would need assylum, being in the EU, and how this isn't just inflammatory (most people don't seem to read the articles).

Explanation of petition or not.
 

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