UK to allow Chinese into 5G network

An excerpt from an article in the Washington Post from April 2019...

"“The Europeans really keep pushing for this concept of, ‘Where’s the smoking gun?’ ” said a person familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak more freely about the closed-door meetings. “They say, ‘Hey, we don’t want security threats either ... but you can’t just come in here and tell us that there is a unity of interest between Beijing and Huawei and have that be the end of your presentation.’ ”

Some analysts say that in a previous era, America’s allies might have been more sympathetic to the Trump administration’s message. But Trump’s conduct, they say — berating NATO allies, canceling a visit to a World War I memorial because of rain, calling Europe a “foe” on trade — has not helped.

“In a world where the U.S. had more soft power,” Entner said, “I’m pretty sure the Europeans would be a lot more receptive.”



And of course, Orange Man has OK'd US telecom providers using Yehaway in Thicksville.
But they don't like you mentioning that…

 
An excerpt from an article in the Washington Post from April 2019...

"“The Europeans really keep pushing for this concept of, ‘Where’s the smoking gun?’ ” said a person familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak more freely about the closed-door meetings. “They say, ‘Hey, we don’t want security threats either ... but you can’t just come in here and tell us that there is a unity of interest between Beijing and Huawei and have that be the end of your presentation.’ ”

Some analysts say that in a previous era, America’s allies might have been more sympathetic to the Trump administration’s message. But Trump’s conduct, they say — berating NATO allies, canceling a visit to a World War I memorial because of rain, calling Europe a “foe” on trade — has not helped.

“In a world where the U.S. had more soft power,” Entner said, “I’m pretty sure the Europeans would be a lot more receptive.”


You are right, US Soft power is declining. But the differences between this side of the pond and that are very real and not going away. Trump was elected to shake up the status quo which he has been more than successful at.
 

endure

GCM
You are right, US Soft power is declining. But the differences between this side of the pond and that are very real and not going away. Trump was elected to shake up the status quo which he has been more than successful at.

One thing he has been successful at is pissing off the United State's natural allies.
 
We don’t need a 51st State full of more socialists, one California is enough.
One's certainly enough to pay for all those perks the Red states enjoy.

The American definition of socialism: somebody else getting free stuff.
 
One thing he has been successful at is pissing off the United State's natural allies.
That was the point, as the previous administrations were unable to use traditional diplomacy to change some trajectories. If BO couldn’t get it done, and started the disengagement then what would you expect?
 
One's certainly enough to pay for all those perks the Red states enjoy.

The American definition of socialism: somebody else getting free stuff.
What perks does all that federal money pay for? Yellowstone, the interstates, and of course 140 silos in the ground and a small BX and Commissary.
 
Seem's yours does too - shocker!!

https://www.citizen.org/article/chinese-investment-in-the-united-states-database/

And a little bit of debt too

Is it a risk for America that China holds over $1 trillion in U.S. debt? | ChinaPower Project

and you're not shy of investing there either

The federal retirement fund is about to invest in China. Some former US military leaders object.

Would that be the same Saudi you've sold over $110Bn of arms to, and continue to and whom the NSA has helped support internally - and who continues to support?
Thank you for the article from Stars and Stripes.

Yes, the Saudi oil spat hurt America badly. They were told in no uncertain terms Congress would hang them out to dry. Since the House of Saud wants to remain in power they made a U turn rather quickly.
 

A2_Matelot

LE
Book Reviewer
Yes, the Saudi oil spat hurt America badly. They were told in no uncertain terms Congress would hang them out to dry. Since the House of Saud wants to remain in power they made a U turn rather quickly.
They don't care, you want their oil $$$. No-one was hanging anyone out to dry! Bluff and bluster
 
What perks does all that federal money pay for? Yellowstone, the interstates, and of course 140 silos in the ground and a small BX and Commissary.
The huge discrepancy between Wyoming's income and education expenditure, for one. You helpfully provided stats which showed that last time we sailed round the 'who pays for what' lighthouse.
 
Education is a priority here in the state, it is a sacred cow much akin to the NHS.
Well, I guess the sacredness means you can't be reliant on the net contributors to fund it.
 
Already told you the big three that the Federal Money funds. It is not given out as a blank cheque to do whatever we want.
So you do benefit from a whacking great bung from central government (funded by other states) on something you described as "a sacred cow"?

Thanks for confirming I was right, but I already knew that.
 
So you do benefit from a whacking great bung from central government (funded by other states) on something you described as "a sacred cow"?

Thanks for confirming I was right, but I already knew that.
The State is not going to be able to fund 140 ICBM's, or the Interstate or Yellowstone. Those are national priorities hence the Federal funding.
 

A2_Matelot

LE
Book Reviewer
Have you missed out on the fracking revolution here?


Make of it what you will.
I'm sure I replied to this if you are/were Jonesey previously...

Fracking doesn't supply what you really need, the US is still critically reliant upon overseas sourced POL, but even Shale/fracking isn't immune to COVID. As a result of the reduction in oil useage the price has plummeted and shale rigs are expected to close down production.

Connoco, ExxonMobil and Chevron have also set out plans to rein in oil production and spending as US oil projects take the brunt of a sharp decline in global oil demand.
 
I'm sure I replied to this if you are/were Jonesey previously...

Fracking doesn't supply what you really need, the US is still critically reliant upon overseas sourced POL, but even Shale/fracking isn't immune to COVID. As a result of the reduction in oil useage the price has plummeted and shale rigs are expected to close down production.

Connoco, ExxonMobil and Chevron have also set out plans to rein in oil production and spending as US oil projects take the brunt of a sharp decline in global oil demand.
At 2.7 percent, I would not call that reliant.


Yes, I know that our oil industry is suffering badly. Painfully aware in fact.
 

A2_Matelot

LE
Book Reviewer
At 2.7 percent, I would not call that reliant.

Check your figures and make sure you consider refined/unrefined, crude/non-crude. Overall the US is still dependant upon foreign imports as your domestic demand increases and fracking tends to produce light crude whereas your refineries are mostly configured for heavier crude.

Your 2.7% only looked at petroleum, thats only a part of your POL consumption and dependency.

In 2019, the United States imported $127 billion in oil and exported $65.4 billion. Exports, in other words, were worth slightly more than half as much in imports. They were the second- and third-ranked U.S. import and export, respectively.
 

Check your figures and make sure you consider refined/unrefined, crude/non-crude. Overall the US is still dependant upon foreign imports as your domestic demand increases and fracking tends to produce light crude whereas your refineries are mostly configured for heavier crude.

Your 2.7% only looked at petroleum, thats only a part of your POL consumption and dependency.
Apologies for being lazy but do you have a link by chance?
 

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