UK spent £20bn on war, but only £18m went on the miltary...

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  1. Of £20bn spent on Iraq and Afghan, only £18m went on the military above normal defence spending...no wonder we're in such poor shape...

    BBC News
     
  2. I don't believe that for a second. Had we spent a decent amount on reconstruction, half the problems we later encountered in Iraq could have been avoided.

    That said, a lot of units were patrolling in snatch and we were short on parts and tools for our warriors. We slept in tents (until they were all fragged to pieces, along with quite a few blokes) and had little or no top cover on ops. So where did the money go?
     
  3. Don't think that is correctly reported - sounds to me like its the NACMO / CPF / UOR funding costs for the past few years - that amounts to several billion instantly.
     
  4. What an absolutely rubbish bit of journalism.

    Take one number, 20bn, and compare it with a mystery number that we are not going to tell you - ie defence budget + £18m = ?

    Then get a couple of completely predictable talking heads to try give it a bit of momentum.

    Utter bolloxs.

    £20bn quid. Is that even a big number? In the context of what we are trying to prevent happening through our involvement in Afg no it isn't.

    The price tag for 11/9 itself in terms of damage to property, disruption and loss of income to the businesses affected has been put at around USD 280bn alone.

    Just the sort of guff you expect from thick-as-mince journalists who make absolutely no effort to try and understand the stuff they are reporting..

    At least if it was on Sky or in a newspaper we wouldn't be paying for it.
     
  5. maguire

    maguire LE Book Reviewer

    what happened on the ninth of November?? :?
     
  6. It's a great deal of money for a broke second division power even if you view it as a sound investment in case the Septics are needed to rescue UK PLC from villainous continentals once more. These long pretty fruitless wars will cost DC several Trillion dollars and they are in hock up to their eyes with Beijing. That's more than the entire GDP of the UK.

    Unfortunately London's skinflint approach to prosecuting them as well as upping British casualties does not go unnoticed in DC. We are optimistically about half way through the Pashtun war and Team Dave is looking both very skint and rather flighty.

    But to put it in perspective, £20bn is about the sixth of the cost the UK seems willing to lavish on replacing Trident. It's half what the UK pays in interest on the deficit PA. $20bn is the laughably small amount BP have been forced to set aside to cover the cost of the spill, it is likely to exceed £40bn.
     
  7. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    Its some thing American they keep banging on about 9/11 which I believe is similer to our 999

    It's a great deal of money for a broke second division power even if you view it as a sound investment in case the Septics are needed to rescue UK PLC from villainous continentals once more. These long pretty fruitless wars will cost DC several Trillion dollars and they are in hock up to their eyes with Beijing. That's more than the entire GDP of the UK.

    .[/quote]

    It's alot to pay for a conflict where our main aly's leader has a problem with us because some squaddy pissed up against his grandads mud hut
     
  8. "the cost of fighting and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan has passed £20bn, UK government figures show.

    Of that, £18bn was spent on military operations"

    Either there was a, now corrected, typo on the article or your're a factor of 1000 out.
     
  9. It was originally 'million' but I had trouble believing that. It's been changed looking at it again
     
  10. The geological bods have found mineral deposits in Afghanistan worth around 2 trillion dollars. As long a we get our share we should be quids in, as long as we don't let the septics take it all!
     
  11. maguire

    maguire LE Book Reviewer

    well, they've never p*ssed about with their end of the 'special relationship' after all, have they? :p
     
  12. Allegedly!

    But how much profit after it's been secured, extracted, transported and sold?

    US has already spent of $300 billion on Afghanistan and I'll expect they'll be first in the queue for a rebate from mining profit.

    Just consider how much the UK getting from Iraqi oil production from the Basrah area before you get carried away with your excitement.
     
  13. £20bn is a colossal amount of money, but far more importantly are the 300 lives already lost in Afghanistan to date and the thousands of our brave service people who have had life changing injuries and will need professional help in some cases for the rest of their lives.
    The question now has to be asked ... In the 9 years of occupation in Afghanistan, What have we achieved??
    I personally DO NOT buy our governments justification excuse of occupation by them simply stating that "It ultimately keeps terrorism off the streets of Britain" this is because the casualty rates in theater are the equivalent of several major terrorist attacks here in the U.K.

    Just imagine what £20bn spent wisely could have achieved for our struggling economy !!
     
  14. Not entirely on topic, but what makes you think the UK is a second division power?

    Both the IMF and the CIA world factbook has out GDP at 6th greatest in the world and we maintain the third greatest defence spending.

    Total revenue of the country is approaching half a trillion sterling.


    Spending an extra 1/25th of national revenue on a major war does not seem particularly extraordinary, infact compared to some past campaigns, it seems very conservative.
     
  15. seconded that man, good point well made.

    DAVID CAMERON< OUR DAVE>
    thinks its right for him to tell us to appreciate our armed forces.> thinks he can tell us what we "SHOULD FEEL" towards our own Military forces.

    This man is a ****ing disgrace and i for one would happily beat him over the head with his ridiculous fascist, dictatorlike view on social commentary and the hypocracy and propaganda we are experiencing in this country.

    kEEP THE HOME FIRES BURNING!,, WITH CAMERON ON IT!!

    If this man put his own house in order, our troops wouldn't be wasting their lives in an unwinnable war, in a country we have invaded and occupied, overthrown their traditional values of society and rural/ tribal leadership and shown them the "western" (Read Correct) way to live...


    Quote from the BBC><
    The public should express its appreciation of Britain's military "more loudly and more proudly", Prime Minister David Cameron said.

    Speaking ahead of Armed Forces Day, he said the country had a "social responsibility" to show its thanks
    ><
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10359155.stm


    Why arent all british personell allowed to wear uniform to and from their place of work, ie barracks, regiments. to the shops, pub etc.?!
    this surely would promote local communties and foster understanding, and conversation with regular joes. civvies.

    Security Threat??? We are F'king soldiers in our own country!!??

    We need to stop living in fear!