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UK Sends 3000 extra troops to Iraq

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Oakleys are worn by Americans and Fat Brits who wannabe taken as serious outdoor types even though all they do is stack blankets.

They still look like geeks, but attention seeking geeks in Oakleys.

Honest.
 
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When the drama blew up on that South Sea Island,( The name escapes me) the Sun had a photograph of a Secret Boat Sailor , blew up large illustrating one of it's stories.

Said Secret Matelot was wearing junglies, Oakleys , Carrying an M4 with all the bits and bobs with the obligatory High Powered sidearm strapped to his thigh.

I remember this, because my Sister said he would get done, no problem 8O

The point is, Oakleys look good,but only when you're armed to the teeth and good looking in the first place *. It won't do a thing for REMF mingers :D



*and Infantry soldiers and Officers from the Cap Badge o' Heroes.
 
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Bravo_Bravo said:
Oakleys are worn by Americans and Fat Brits who wannabe taken as serious outdoor types even though all they do is stack blankets.

They still look like geeks, but attention seeking geeks in Oakleys.

Honest.
Bistard, you saw me in Iraq last year didn't you? Tw*t, knew it was you. Knew that rumble in the back of the iso would come back to haunt me :twisted:
 
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Harking back to Oman, RayBan Aviators are the eyewear of choice for Col Kilgore wannabe Fd Hosp COs....

....and fake Oakleys for the pasty fat lasses of the QARANC. Until you saw them off duty, you wouldn't believe there was that much lycra in the world.
 
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ViroBono said:
....and fake Oakleys for the pasty fat lasses of the QARANC. Until you saw them off duty, you wouldn't believe there was that much lycra in the world.
Oh there is that much Lycra in the world, and the critical mass is here in Gosport. Wednesday night in Emmas is dangerous, a black hole may evolve there anytime in the future :twisted:
 
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I suspect that the TA can't be used as the majority of those who are able to be mobilized have been and therefore can't be re-mobilized for another 3 years. :?
 
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chicken_jim said:
I suspect that the TA can't be used as the majority of those who are able to be mobilized have been and therefore can't be re-mobilized for another 3 years. :?
What's the betting we see some changes to RFA 96 in the very near future?
 
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Maybe not.

Just make the 3 year period start 2 1/2 years before you were mobilised, therefore you can be remobilised immeadiatley (a Major at Chilwell told me about this!).
 
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Chicken Jim

What makes you think "everyone who can be mobilised has been"?

I would say it's more like "everyone who is prepared to volunteer (and some who weren't) has been mobilised"

Now for the rest of us I suppose.

Chicken punk - I fear you may be right.............

Polar - interesting I haven't heard that one, but technically speaking I suppose it's true. I shall rush off to look at RFA 96 forthwith!

Scary

(no I don't particularly want to go thank you)
 
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scaryspice said:
Chicken Jim

What makes you think "everyone who can be mobilised has been"?

I would say it's more like "everyone who is prepared to volunteer (and some who weren't) has been mobilised"
Cause he's not in the same corp/bde as us.
 
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chickenpunk said:
chicken_jim said:
I suspect that the TA can't be used as the majority of those who are able to be mobilized have been and therefore can't be re-mobilized for another 3 years. :?
What's the betting we see some changes to RFA 96 in the very near future?
Won't necessarily do them any good. Changes in terms of service such as RFA 96 do not apply to serving soldiers immediately, they continue to serve under the terms in existence when they signed. However, re-enlisting can only be done under the new terms so everyone will be subject to the new terms after a while - I think 4 years is the normal period of time soldiers sign up for. Of course, the question then is how many will elect to re-enlist under the new terms. (Officers are a bit different as far as detail goes but the same principles apply. )

The only real option for lots of TA in the near term is to get a state of emergency (is that the right phrase ?) declared and then the restrictions on TA mobilisation disappear. Of course that is a very sensitive political act and one wonders whether the present Government has enough support to effectively declare war.
 
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One_of_the_strange said:
The only real option for lots of TA in the near term is to get a state of emergency (is that the right phrase ?) declared and then the restrictions on TA mobilisation disappear. Of course that is a very sensitive political act and one wonders whether the present Government has enough support to effectively declare war.
I don't imagine it would take a particularly brilliant lawyer to demonstrate that we aren't in anything like a 'state of emergency' at present - more a state of political unease. I have no idea whether a set of clear criteria must be established before a 'State of Emergency' can be declared - I presume it is simply an exercise by the PM of the Royal Prerogative - but it might well be possible for the courts to overturn it.

If they wanted to change the provisions of RFA 96, I doubt it would be that difficult. They can do what they did last time: change the conditions of service and then pile on the pressure to 'sign on or feck off'.

Anyway, however they address it, maintaining a roulement for two combat bdes plus CSS is going to be tricky.
 
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polar said:
scaryspice said:
Chicken Jim

What makes you think "everyone who can be mobilised has been"?

I would say it's more like "everyone who is prepared to volunteer (and some who weren't) has been mobilised"
Cause he's not in the same corp/bde as us.
Good point well made!

See you on Horseshoe Five then!

Scary
 
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polar said:
Maybe not.

Just make the 3 year period start 2 1/2 years before you were mobilised, therefore you can be remobilised immeadiatley (a Major at Chilwell told me about this!).
Polar

This sounded ominous to me. So 'cos I'm sad I have looked at RFA. It's not correct (though I'm sure they will find a way round it)

RFA specifically says that the three year period for "relevant service" starts the day immediately preceding the first day of the current service under any existing order. The maximum relevant service total is 12 months in the last 36 for call out under Sec 54 "Warlike Operations" and 9 months in the previous 27 fro call out under section 56 "Operations for the protection of life and property, etc".

It's up to five years continuous for defence of the UK, but then I think that's a fair one really.

There is a bit that allows current service to be extended beyond the maximum at HM's pleasure (got that ominous feeling again...)


Scary

(RFA spotter)
 
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scaryspice said:
There is a bit that allows current service to be extended beyond the maximum at HM's pleasure (got that ominous feeling again...)
Now that has got to be the 'Catch 22'! Basically it means: 'The following rules apply, unless we decide they don't.'
 
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scaryspice said:
Chicken Jim
What makes you think "everyone who can be mobilised has been"?
I would say it's more like "everyone who is prepared to volunteer (and some who weren't) has been mobilised"
Now for the rest of us I suppose.
(no I don't particularly want to go thank you)
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/troops19_20040519.htm
Ex-troops could be forced to go to Iraq - Army, stretched thin, is reviewing files now
May 19, 2004
BY JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY
FREE PRESS WASHINGTON STAFF
WASHINGTON --
"The U.S. Army is mustering soldiers for duty in Iraq wherever it can find them, and that includes among people long considered off-limits.

The Army confirmed Tuesday that it pulled the files of 17,000 people in the Individual Ready Reserve, the nation's pool of former soldiers.

The Army has been screening them for critically needed specialists; about 100 have been called since January. The Army could legally call back as many as 6,500 involuntarily.
Who said we Septics ain't go no draft?

It is lookin' like Woodstock all over again over here.
(Or is it Springtime for Bushman in Baghdad?)
 

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