UK reveals scope of 'Seedcorn' maritime patrol project

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In the mean time we are blind.
 
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That's nice. And whose patrolling our waters for us again?
 
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So, if we knock that money, and the millions they spent smashing up the finished Nimrods, how much a year did we save to lose Britains maritime security? How's that compare to the millions we waste giving India aid they don't want?
 
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So, if we knock that money, and the millions they spent smashing up the finished Nimrods, how much a year did we save to lose Britains maritime security? How's that compare to the millions we waste giving India aid they don't want?

No, unlike us they're not wasting it - they've just used some of it to buy 12 P-8 Poseidons from Boeing...
;-)

Oh, the irony!
 
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No martime patrol asests? That's all right, it's not like we live on an island is it?
 
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Either the nimrod was the greatest thing since slice bread or a moneypit of horror tat was never going to fly.
Thevabilitybto hunt subs might be a bit meh but having something that can stooge about are rather wet environs rather important
 
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Probably the worst outcome of the SDSR - the loss of the UK MPA capability.

However, the Japs are about to build several of these (was 80, then 60, now looks like around 20)

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Four engined, 4500 mile range - lovely.

I'm sure if we asked nicely, they'd extend the production run. Could even fit them out with the avionics developed for the MRA4....
 
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Probably the worst outcome of the SDSR - the loss of the UK MPA capability.

However, the Japs are about to build several of these (was 80, then 60, now looks like around 20)

Kawasaki P-1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Four engined, 4500 mile range - lovely.

I'm sure if we asked nicely, they'd extend the production run. Could even fit them out with the avionics developed for the MRA4....
It's been disucssed on here before: a purpose-built, four-engined MPA. What's not to like, Japanese restrictions on armament exports notwithstanding?

Unfortunately, I suspect that all paths lead to P-8. When we've finally got any bloody money to play with.
 
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33 blokes... I assume the name 'seedcorn' was picked for a reason.

I like the 'fly by light' concept too.

Wasn't tere a prototype car which had a fibre optic loom with DC cables attached? The idea was that everything on the 'network' would have it's own 'ID' and adding bits to the system wouldn't be too problematic...

I don't think the idea was to bring it in to car production, just test a theory.
 
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It's been disucssed on here before: a purpose-built, four-engined MPA. What's not to like, Japanese restrictions on armament exports notwithstanding?

Unfortunately, I suspect that all paths lead to P-8. When we've finally got any bloody money to play with.
Indeed - what's not to like - it's Nimrod MRA4 done right (well, the airframe anyway). I'm sure there would be a way around the export restrictions.
Could be the basis of a pretty decent platform. The P-8 is good, but has a lot of restrictions.
 
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Hmmm - buying Japanese . . . . if we could sneak around the weapons export restrictions by emphasising it's a PATROL arcraft, and buy it "fitted for but not with" the ASW weapons, we might end up with something smaller, cheaper, that starts every morning, runs reliably for years and has lots of blinking lights and "mode" buttons that nobody every really understands the point of because it does everything you need without messing with them. Or is that just everything else the Japanese make?
 

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