If plod went in to those areas mob handed and started earning their fecking wages, there wouldn't be 'no-go areas' and they wouldn't need danger money. This is from the same 'force' that's always pleading bloody poverty. Yeah, I know... it's not plod's fault, they're tied by the system etc. I give up... pretty much like the poor bloody residents of Longsight really.
I have a good idea,shoot all the doley scum as they collect their benefit's,then nip round to all the doctors and put a gun to the head of all those workshy cnuts on long term sick and offer them the choice of get a job in a week or get the third eye and I reckon the crime rate would drop plus with the money we save we could pay your lads a proper wage
If the law worked in the first place, we would not have this cr@p. (the police not been the law but the up holders of it) its quite clear they do not have the confidence or enthusiasm they once had! Thats why they are crap
The documentary on ITV 16 Nov 07 "the thin blue line" opened my eyes, PCSO what a waste of money (there intentions maybe good) no real deterrent or power of arrest! For every 10 PCSO they could have up to 8 proper plod??
Also in the papers and I think on some other thread
Some bloke commits a theft £100 quid plus and has to pay back £40 fine and £40 costs. Maths was not my strong point at school but 40 plus 40 does not quite make £100.
Danger money for the poor s0ds who have to live there?
(dole filth excepted)
I quite like the thought of the cops adopting a different approach to policing. How about going into these no-go areas en masse, invoking MACP/MACA, supported by troops with bayonets fixed...anyone with a firearm or knife a legitimate target...
There will be plenty of experienced troops following the last couple of years in Basra.
If they can shoot a Brazilian in the head for wearing a bulky jacket....
Oh yes frigging danger money for the old bill, and what do we residents get feck all. However as a resident of one of them areas mentioned, let me say, the Police do a marvellous job stopping and checking for non taxed cars.
Anything else forget it, it aint that they are scared, its cos their frigging lazy, that and the fact they like stopping behind asda for a pie, oh and also at the back of the cafe.
If plod went in to those areas mob handed and started earning their fecking wages, they wouldn't be 'no-go areas' and they wouldn't need danger money. This is from the same 'force' that's always pleading bloody poverty. Yeah, I know... it's not plod's fault, they're tied by the system etc. I give up... pretty much like the poor bloody residents of Longsight really.
I seem to recall in 1972 when I was in Londonderry that we took part in Operation Motorman which was to open up "No Go Area" so perhaps up to then we hadn't been doing our job, perhaps you could tell that to the lads we lost. No go areas are a fact of life and if they have to be cleared out why shouldn't police officers get extra money for taking greater than usual risk. A Taliban bullet doesn't kill you any more than a Longsight Chav bullet.
Our lads are getting shot up,for a lot less,in The Sandpit etc.These people are well paid,taking substantially less risk,but yet have to be 'compensated' for doing their job.Added to that METS are planning 'one to one chats' with teenage gang leaders,in London.It shows how out of touch the police are.On the latter,if they know who these 'leaders' are,why not just arrest them??? The World is going mad.
Longsight, Cheetham Hill et al are not the Creggan and Divis... yet (give it another six months). What I do know is that when I grew up in Wythenshawe in the '60s and '70s, coppers were everywhere and there was hardly any mither - certainly not from young uns. 'No go areas' happen because they're allowed to happen. NI in '72 was a different barrel of monkeys to what's happening now.
I really don't want to see yet another thread Dibble-bashing, but it's bloody hard not to sometimes. If a career in the police centres around nothing more than ticking bloody boxes and tallying up 'detections' then crack the fcuk on and don't whinge about paperwork. I've said it before, if they went on strike or resigned en masse then changes would happen very quickly - on the positive side I'm sure. Danger money is a bloody insult. Danger goes with the job... unless you restrict your 'detections' to OOD tax discs.
My bold. Speaking as a cop, if I and many of my colleagues felt we would be given the support of those above then I could pretty much guarantee neither "danger money" would be needed as an incentive, nor would we need to be ordered in. It can be done and it can be done within the remit of the law.