UK National Defence Association

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I've just been emailed this link. It's very Navy biased at the moment but it may have some potential.......


UKNDA
 
#3
Clerk_of_Jerks said:
I've just been emailed this link. It's very Navy biased at the moment but it may have some potential.......


UKNDA
I think its a great idea. The UK needs much larger - and better paid - armed forces.
 
#5
Sven said:
A kind of BAFF

Set up by someone else.

Name begins with B perhaps and ends with an arabic type godhead.
Have you got a link Sven????
 
#9
Sven said:
Fugly said:
Sven said:
A kind of BAFF

Set up by someone else.

Name begins with B perhaps and ends with an arabic type godhead???
Is there an Arabic god called Ollocks?
Fuygly, I agree with You entirely - but others MAY think the organisation not to be bollox
Never heard of B'allah :twisted:

But if it increases awareness of the plight of our Armed Forces - good for it.
 
#10
rickshaw-major said:
Sven said:
Fugly said:
Sven said:
A kind of BAFF

Set up by someone else.

Name begins with B perhaps and ends with an arabic type godhead???
Is there an Arabic god called Ollocks?
Fuygly, I agree with You entirely - but others MAY think the organisation not to be bollox
Never heard of B'allah :twisted:
Faugh-a-B'allah, maybe?
 
#12
rickshaw-major said:
Never heard of B'allah :twisted:

But if it increases awareness of the plight of our Armed Forces - good for it.

I agree with you rickshaw-major. As someone posted earlier, its genesis is the Royal Navy, but it can't meet its own objectives unless it broadens its scope to embrace all the Armed Forces. Perhaps giving it time to develop and then measure its effectiveness would be a prudent step.
 
#13
So long as it doesn't distract from the work of BAFF, having another pressure group raising awareness of this issue can only be a very good thing indeed. More voices in the choir, that sort of thing...
 
#14
Sven said:
A kind of BAFF

Set up by someone else.

Name begins with B perhaps and ends with an arabic type godhead???
To be fair, the aim of the NDA is to promote the defence of the nation and raise awareness in the public eye whereas BAFF is intended to look out for the interests of individual service personnel and service personnel in general. They are different but complementary. I'm still waiting to see how they develop before I fork out for yet more subscriptions. Being retired, I don't think I'm eligible for BAFF anyway.
 
#15
So long as it doesn't distract from the work of BAFF, having another pressure group raising awareness of this issue can only be a very good thing indeed. More voices in the choir, that sort of thing...
That can also work the other way, now two groups then three or four, all trying the same thing, can rather muddy the waters. If this second group knows of the existence of BAFF, then why have another group, why not help or join, sometimes having another Org can be more of a hindrance.
 
#16
scarletto said:
That can also work the other way, now two groups then three or four, all trying the same thing, can rather muddy the waters. If this second group knows of the existence of BAFF, then why have another group, why not help or join, sometimes having another Org can be more of a hindrance.
At the risk of being pedantic, and bearing in mind I'm retired, which one would I join to help campaign for more defence spending (somebody needs to) and how the money should be spent (more wisely, I hope)? While I support the objectives of BAFF and wish it every success, it doesn't sound like the right organisation for people like me but the NDA might be. Horses for courses, as they say. As I said, they are different but complementary so let's not start a flame war against either one.
 
#17
Dunservin said:
Sven said:
A kind of BAFF

Set up by someone else.

Name begins with B perhaps and ends with an arabic type godhead???
To be fair, the aim of the NDA is to promote the defence of the nation and raise awareness in the public eye whereas BAFF is intended to look out for the interests of individual service personnel and service personnel in general. They are different but complementary. I'm still waiting to see how they develop before I fork out for yet more subscriptions. Being retired, I don't think I'm eligible for BAFF anyway.
Dunservin

Yes You can

Joining BAFF is easy! You can join if you are serving, ex-service, or as a ‘Friend of BAFF’.
Follow the link to join
 
#19
Clerk_of_Jerks said:
I've just been emailed this link. It's very Navy biased at the moment but it may have some potential.......

UKNDA
I noted the following paper on that site:

http://www.uknda.org/docs/uknda_new_carriers.pdf

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: James Rogers articulates that Britain’s acquisition of two new ‘pocket supercarriers’ - HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales - is in the utmost national interest. These new vessels will secure Britain’s international role and leadership for decades to come, equipping the Royal Navy with extensive ‘blue-water’ capacities, and providing the nation with increased ability to lead the European Union’s emerging foreign, security and defence policies - as well as the dexterity to shape the political and diplomatic decisions of allies and foes alike. While opponents have counselled against the aircraft carriers’ construction, stating that they do not serve the nation’s security-defence interests and/or are too expensive, the argument is put that these views do not serve the longer term strategic interests of the nation, resulting in the compartmentalisation of security-defence, reducing Britain’s overall strategic posture and leverage as a leading global power.
Comments?

Is there a legitimate national security need for Aircraft Carriers?
 
#20
Lipo said:
Comments?

Is there a legitimate national security need for Aircraft Carriers?
Given the cluster feck that constitutes the CVF programme, its air component and the resource planning of the "wetware" I would fervently hope not!
 

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