Uk Homes For Heroes

#3
Does anyone know anything about this charity?

Seems that donated money goes on MG sports cars with private number plates.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/116701048344489/?fref=ts

I'm sick of all these charities starting up to get their own Jollies, how can a sports car help the homeless. Makes me sick not going to support any charity anymore.
I share your pain - However there is one charity that is bone fide and run by a bunch of good people - so if you have a few sovs then send it here Holidays4Heroes
 
#4
Thanks Joey this really pi##es me of people give money to help not for sports cars wtf is going on, looking in their photos looks like they use the homeless to rake in money and thats what they spend it on.
 

Wordsmith

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#5
Here's the latest accounts.

Homes4Heroes-1.jpg

The charity was sitting on 11,186 of cash and had paid out £5,000 for something with payment due after at least 12 months.

The company director is a James Jukes.

Wordsmith
 
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commandoraid

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#7
I do believe that this thread was started by members (or supporters) of SOTS and if you are to believe their allegations then shame on you lot. I know that this vehicle was given by Freinds around London as a donation and at no time was any charity money used. It shames me to read that the supporters of SOTs should personally attack another charity doing the same for our homeless heroes. You want to hang your heads in shame.

If you are unaware of who SOTs are, then please look at the picture below, this is the person that runs this outfit and makes up figures on what he does for our homeless, uses Walts as patrons for his charity, uses 'Skinheads' and EDF/BNP supporters to work for the charity.... I could go on and ask the Administrators of this site to remove this scum of their site...

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Rant over and please remember we all work for the same cause, why you choose to blacken and discredit someone else's hard work is beyhond me. Geta life and look after the guy's that need us (with your new response vehicles)
 
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commandoraid

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#8
Statement on behalf of the donate of the vehicle...

It appears that a few people are causing major issues for the charity because of a misunderstanding that I hope I can put right now...
Basically the charity and individuals within it have been accused of using it's funds to buy a sports car and spend money on things like fancy number plates, etc.
I would like to make it clear that the car, known as Angel, was purchased by Southmids Sportsters, as a project and to be used to actively promote the charity. NOT A PENNY of the money raised for the charity is being spent in any way on the car. It has been entirely funded by the club and it's sponsors and is actually generating funds for the charity as planned.
This weekend's major event, Friends Round London, is hoped to raise a sufficient amount to enable the charity to open a new temporary accommodation unit that will offer immediate help to many of our ex-servicemen who are currently on the streets and help them to establish a more secure and safe future. It is through the generosity of the Southmids Sportsters members, friends on the MG-rover.org forums and their sponsors that this is possible and Angel is at the forefront of this amazing event, providing much needed awareness of such a worthwhile cause and a charity that is truly making a difference...
 
#9
We should all ,be carefull who we give to and I always try to give to charities who have taken the time to register with the charities commission and who do produce formal account (obviously I make an exception for Hols4heroes because of its connections to ARRSE). Is it fair to publicly express doubts without talking to either the members or the Charities Commission or the administrators of the charity? You could be dissuading people from giving to a properly set up and run charity.

On my company vehicles I have Help 4 Heroes branding, the charity did not pay for my company's vehicles and we paid the charity for the branding. I agree that vigilance is always wise but it would be a great shame if a few hasty words deprived the intended benefactors of their help.
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
OK - I'll play devil's advocate based on your last published accounts - see above. As a legitimate charity, you should have no problems in answering these questions:

Cash Reserves

The charity was sitting on about £11K of cash reserves.

Holiday's for Heroes on this site often has a whip round to help homeless soldiers. It often takes just a few hundred pounds to get the soldier being helped off the streets and into accommodation for long enough for other service charities to rally around and help with the longer term solution.

As it only takes a few hundred pounds to start the ball rolling - and with charities like the RBL willing to help - why are you sitting on the cash reserves?

£5,000 Long Term Expenditure

This follows on from the first question - what was the expenditure that only falls due after 12 months and why was it important?

Examples

Most local charities often feature in newspapers which have stories about what they have achieved - can you put up some links?

Registering as a Charity

Have you registered as a charity set - if so put up the number.

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As a legitimate charity, you should have no problem answering these questions and showing you've made a contribution to helping homeless soldiers.

Wordsmith
 
#11
Sadly being registered as a Charity is not in itself any guarentee that the money raised will be used well or efficiently. Provided the aims of the organisation meet the requirements then thats enough to get a registation. What the organisers then do in terms of expenses, remuneration, buildings etc is up to them. If you are at all uncertain or have never heard of the operation shaking the can in your face my personal advice would be to steer clear. Likewise if you feel tempted to start your own organisation maybe have a long hard look to see if you might not be able to do more good by working for an established charity so reducing the admin overhead ? In my part of the world there are already over 400 Service related charities, I cannot but help think that most will overlap a job already being done by some-one else.
 
#12
Sadly being registered as a Charity is not in itself any guarentee that the money raised will be used well or efficiently. Provided the aims of the organisation meet the requirements then thats enough to get a registation. What the organisers then do in terms of expenses, remuneration, buildings etc is up to them. If you are at all uncertain or have never heard of the operation shaking the can in your face my personal advice would be to steer clear. Likewise if you feel tempted to start your own organisation maybe have a long hard look to see if you might not be able to do more good by working for an established charity so reducing the admin overhead ? In my part of the world there are already over 400 Service related charities, I cannot but help think that most will overlap a job already being done by some-one else.
They may not be registered, I mistook the Company Registered Number for the Charities Registration Number. Sorry if I have mislead. I have, however, approached the spokesman for the group and asked him what the £5k represents, I haven't heard back but give him time.
 
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commandoraid

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#13
Thank you Wordsmith...

I am only posting my comments and concerns as a supporter of the charity and I know the work they do is second to none. Not one of the volunteers that do outreach in Brighton, London, Northampton or any other area of the country get a salary and everything that is given out to the homeless comes from direct donations (Food, clothes etc) When the charity re-houses a soul then they supply furniture and general household goods. I believe all the information about the charity can be found on their website, their Facebook page and the Charity Commissions page (where I see you have already visited). Their support for our homeless far surpasses what anyone would expect...
 
#16
Personally I too am fed up with these small charities popping up. Some may be genuine and have their heart in the right place and some not, but its difficult to tell. IMHO I think that they should all be controlled under one authority which would ensure that all the dosh goes to the right place. Sadly that won't happen, so I will only give to a certain few.
 
#17
Personally I too am fed up with these small charities popping up. Some may be genuine and have their heart in the right place and some not, but its difficult to tell. IMHO I think that they should all be controlled under one authority which would ensure that all the dosh goes to the right place. Sadly that won't happen, so I will only give to a certain few.
Whilst what you say is fair comment, it is difficult to imagine a big charity being able to respond as quickly as Hols4Heroes to a sudden emergency and often Hols have to act as a stop gap until a larger, more unwieldy charity steps in.

I believe there is a place for them but like you say, vigilance is key!
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
Thank you Wordsmith...

I am only posting my comments and concerns as a supporter of the charity and I know the work they do is second to none. Not one of the volunteers that do outreach in Brighton, London, Northampton or any other area of the country get a salary and everything that is given out to the homeless comes from direct donations (Food, clothes etc) When the charity re-houses a soul then they supply furniture and general household goods. I believe all the information about the charity can be found on their website, their Facebook page and the Charity Commissions page (where I see you have already visited). Their support for our homeless far surpasses what anyone would expect...
I'm sure they'll have no trouble answering the questions I put up then.

Feel free to put up information about Brighton. I was born and raised there, know the area very well and would be very interested to know what you've done there.

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commandoraid

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#19
It seems we are side tracking from the original thread and that was the charity being accused of buying a car with the charity money. If my (and the company that donated the car) answer wasn't sufficient then please take a look at UK Homes 4 Heroes Facebook page, here the person who donated the car has his say about the allegations.

What I can tell you is that every volunteer that does outreach duties in London, Northampton and Brighton is not on any salary and they feed and clothe our heroes from the kind donations for their supporters.

When a soldier is re-housed the charity sets up the bond and rent, fits the home out with furniture and carries out an after care service to make sure everything is going smoothly through the transition from 'Street to Home'. To be honest I don't think anyone is in a position to question this and I for one support this charity with my time and whatever else I can.

It shames me that any individual should question the charities hard work and I do know that there are other charities out there that their sole purpose in life is to do just that...

All the information you need about the charity is on their website, facebook page and the charity commissions page. My thoughts are you should be looking at the ones that started this ridiculous allegation, you'll be shocked what you may find out - I was!
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
It would take someone from the charity just a few minutes to answer the questions I put up, then everyone would be reassured. That seems a lot simpler than going round the houses with long posts about what outreach workers do.

The whole matter could be put to bed very quickly and everyone will be in absolutely no doubt the charity is legitimate.

Wordsmith
 

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