U.S.-led forces attack al-Qaeda in Iraq

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  1. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-11-06-iraq-operation_x.htm

    The Al-Jaz version

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/CEA0F753-0D70-4DF8-9FA2-A2A3C89F2E97.htm

     
  2. The previous reports are from the MSM and suspect. Here are arcurate reports of what is happening

    Day one of Operation Steel Curtain, which is aimed at dislodging al Qaeda from the border town of Husaybah and estabishing a permanent presence of Iraqi troops, has ended


    Iraqi Defense Minister Dulaimi stated "up to 180 terrorists escaped from Husaybah" and fled to Syria as Steel Curtain commenced. According to the Kuwait News Agency; "He added that Syria should stop the infiltration of foreign fighters from Syria into Iraq, noting that the Iraqi authorities have 400 detainees who said that they were trained in Syria before entering Iraq." While this will be offered up as proof the insurgents are slipping the net, the real story is that the insurgents didn't move to locations along the Euphrates River inside Iraq, and eyes are now seriously beginning to turn towards Syria




    http://billroggio.com/archives/2005/11/steel_curtain_and.php
     
  3. hansvonhealing wrote



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    This was posted in the comment section of Bill Roggio's blog . The guy is real evil.





    Here is one of your lefty friends in action
    Is Jimmy Massey telling the truth about Iraq?
     
  4. No friend of mine NEO, unlike you, I don't hang around Walt sites........
     
  5. Neo , on serious forums, people use Blogs to shed a little more colour on a point they're trying to make , or to bring to an alternative view during a debate.

    We don't use them as credible or authoritive news sources, as you seem wont to do.

    The official US Army spokesman says "Not much resistance" while a Marine 2i/c on the ground says 'It's raining lead'

    Couple that with repeated fast mover strikes, and I think I know which report may be nearer the truth.
     
  6. My report said this
    The street fighting has been reported to have been intense in the center and southwest corner of the city.

    . There are 4,500 soldiers in this operation that is slightly more than one person. Individual quotes let the writer spin the story any way he wants to spin it. Just give me the facts. Bill Roggio does it better than most MSM writers. Read his blog and you may learn about what is happening in Anbar Province. You cling to your left wing sources and come out with your left wing views.
     
  7. Hang on a minute there - look at the difference between the two media outlets. USA Today leads with "Scores of terrified Iraqis ..." while Al-Jazeera gives a fairly dispassionate report. We might not like the content but I know which one I'd give more credence to.
     
  8. Neo-con, what are this blogs sources? He is not an accredited Journo nor is he in Iraq. Might I suggest that he joins the USMC if he wants to go to Iraq.....so where is his credibility?
     
  9. ?

    So what he is not an accredited Journo. He is ex military and fought in the gulf in 1991. Now he is going to Iraq as a journalist. What he does do is take media sources and complies them. Provides context like discussing tactics and what emerges is a coherent strategy of engagement with the enemy not the random violence that the media portrays. If you read his blog you will learn something about Iraq


    The American media elite views the war though their own cultural and class biases. To a greater extent I think European reporters do the same thing. I have looked for different sources other than the standard media elites. What is happening because soldiers coming back from the war have been telling different stories of what is happening in Iraq than what is seen on our TV screens. The Internet has allowed ex-soldiers to become reporters and give a different perspective.

    EX Military who has become a great writter Michael Yon
    http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/

    This guy is an accredited Journo but he gets it. He also imbeds with soldiers about 6 months out of a year.
    video http://www.booktv.org/ram/feature/1005/btv101505_4b.ram

    http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=6241&schedID=384
     
  10. From what I read Syria has a huge border with lookout point every 20-50 miles, not too bad, pretty good for someone that aparently lets nutters cross it's borders. However duing the night they can't see anything, lights aren't powerful enough. NVG and infrared optics would help but the US is afraid that they will be used for terrorist activities... catch 22.

    As for the two news sources, Al Jaz does seem alot more credible to me. And as for using someone that "compiles" other sites to give a point of view on situations is stupid. why not use the news sources yourself that way you will come across conflicting news sources and make a jugment for yourself, might make you a little less ...left.
     
  11. EX military, Blogger Bill Roggio becomes a reporter with his interview Husaybah has been cleared and secured" - An Interview with Col Davis
     
  12. You give credence to his 'reporting' because he gives total, unquestioning support to US actions in Iraq. A real journalist is objective and balanced, leaving the readers to make up their own minds. They are certainly not Walt bloggers....
     
  13. If you have a fast connection go to this site http://www.booktv.org/General/index.asp?segID=6241&schedID=384

    click watch
    It's a talk given by Robert Kaplan the author of Imperial Grunts: The American Military on the Ground
    He talks about the US military and has some observation on reporters and how they do their job.

    I have learned something from reading Bill's blog. By putting the daily news reports of various news organization in context over a period months a strategy emerges. What most people see every day is just the unconnected violence and not the pattern. There is method to the various military operations. It is important for the people back home to understand what is happening in Iraq . He plays a valuable role.
     
  14. Quote from the books blurb:- 'the author writes that the men and women of the American Armed Forces stationed abroad make up the front line for American foreign policy.'

    Says it all really, doesn't it.