U.S. hopes Syria joins war on terror?

Can current Syrian regime be an American ally?

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#1
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/761776.html

U.S. hopes Syria joins war on terror after embassy attack

WASHINGTON - The United States, which has long had tense relations with Syria, expressed gratitude on Tuesday to the Syrian government for going after men who attacked the U.S. Embassy in Damascus and said it hopes Syria will join the war on terror.

"Syrian officials came to the aid of the Americans, the U.S. government is grateful for the assistance the Syrians provided in going after the attackers," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

"We are hoping they will become an ally and make the choice of fighting against terrorists."
 
#2
"We are hoping they will become an ally and make the choice of fighting against terrorists."
Stop threatening them then, that would work.

Here's a radical suggestion . Stop letting Israel dictate your Middle Eastern policy. When was the last time you listened to Israel, acted on their suggestion/hysteria and you were absolutely right to do so, and it benefitted the US?

Yes, I'm stumped too.
 
#3
Yes and it should be as long as those Neo Con pr1cks in Washington are not allowed near the decision making process.
 
#4
Bashar al-Assad - Did some of his medical training in the UK, met his wife in the UK (Sunni Muslim-and raised in UK)

Plus he's a dead ringer for John Cleese:





So a good start for some decent Anglo-Syrian relations!

Contary to popular opinion over here (US) not all "A-rabs" stick together and have the same goals. He/Syria could be a real asset in these exciting times in which we live in.
 
#5
Sergey,

You have a wicked sense of humour.

Where are you from anyway? Are you Russian and based in Moscow?

Syria joining the US? That would be something.
 
#6
Random_Task said:
Bashar al-Assad - Did some of his medical training in the UK, met his wife in the UK (Sunni Muslim-and raised in UK)

Plus he's a dead ringer for John Cleese:





So a good start for some decent Anglo-Syrian relations!

Contary to popular opinion over here (US) not all "A-rabs" stick together and have the same goals. He/Syria could be a real asset in these exciting times in which we live in.
good lord Random, with your sense of humour ( gleaned from some of your posts ), I would never have dreamed in a squillion years that you were a septic. I had you pegged as a cynical old English man with a wicked glint in his eye
 
#7
londonirish said:
Random_Task said:
Bashar al-Assad - Did some of his medical training in the UK, met his wife in the UK (Sunni Muslim-and raised in UK)

Plus he's a dead ringer for John Cleese:





So a good start for some decent Anglo-Syrian relations!

Contary to popular opinion over here (US) not all "A-rabs" stick together and have the same goals. He/Syria could be a real asset in these exciting times in which we live in.
good lord Random, with your sense of humour ( gleaned from some of your posts ), I would never have dreamed in a squillion years that you were a septic. I had you pegged as a cynical old English man with a wicked glint in his eye
For the record (I sense a slight 'wah coming) I'm a cynical old Englishman living in the United States. :D
 
#8
It sure would be better to have them inside the tent p*ssing out as opposed to the outside of the tent p*ssing in.

Not likely though.
 
#9
GuyT said:
Sergey,

You have a wicked sense of humour.

Where are you from anyway? Are you Russian and based in Moscow?

Syria joining the US? That would be something.
As you may see, I quoted White House spokesman Tony Snow. It is possible that he has an excellent sense of humour but in this case he was rather serious.

PS. Indeed, I'm Russian and live in Moscow.
 
#12
londonirish said:
Random_Task said:
For the record (I sense a slight 'wah coming) I'm a cynical old Englishman living in the United States. :D
good lord, what on earth for? :?
the conversation :D

(work & wife)
 
#13
I'd like to see Charlie Manson become a caped crusader of justice, fighting evil-doers wherever the forces of corruption and iniquity lair.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

Maybe if Syria stops infiltrating terrorists into Iraq, and stops supplying weapons to Hezbollah murderers, the US won't feel obliged to be unfriendly to them. All a bully deserves is a few good hard kicks in the teeth, and unfortunately Syria hasn't gotten that from us. Yet.

One can always hope.
 
#14
There was an interesting interview on BBC4 tonight it was raised that when the spat in Lebanon started that Syria offered to wavier visa requirements and offer passage to Damascus for trapped Americans when put to the Whitehouse they were told to forget it. So maybe Syria is starting to show it's hand albeit slighty
 
#15
Maybe if Syria stops infiltrating terrorists into Iraq, and stops supplying weapons to Hezbollah murderers, the US won't feel obliged to be unfriendly to them. All a bully deserves is a few good hard kicks in the teeth, and unfortunately Syria hasn't gotten that from us. Yet.

One can always hope.

Syria is infiltrating terrorists into Iraq. Is she? I thought they were busy rounding up those of a terrorist bent they can find? Fundementalist Islam is not high on Syria's must do list. Supplying weapons to Hezbollah , very possibly. America supplies arms to Israel , what's your point?

A bully deserves...... Sorry , who was it that brought peace to the Lebanon again? A clue -NOT Israel. Who exactly has Syria bullied?

Now if America hadn't been listening to Israel exclusively , and destabilised the region by demanding immediate as opposed to phased (and the vaccuum replaced) Syrian withdrawl from Lebanon, would they have just gone through what they did? It seems as soon as Syria was out of there, Israel was straight in and got a slap for her troubles.

Syria should have been publicly brought onside a long time ago , enough hints were dropped and I am glad to see the adminstration use the flimsiest of excuses to get that hand out. America and we are going to need as many working partners in the region as we can muster.

If you want to believe Syria hasn't already been working with the US in some way against terrorism , then that is up to you.
 
#16
Yank_Lurker said:
I'd like to see Charlie Manson become a caped crusader of justice, fighting evil-doers wherever the forces of corruption and iniquity lair.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

Maybe if Syria stops infiltrating terrorists into Iraq, and stops supplying weapons to Hezbollah murderers, the US won't feel obliged to be unfriendly to them. All a bully deserves is a few good hard kicks in the teeth, and unfortunately Syria hasn't gotten that from us. Yet.

One can always hope.
I fear that the actions of two eight year olds in the school playground are not an adequate analogy. Given the relative combat power of the US and Syrian militaries I fear the US is the bully in any rational comparision. But I digress.

Were I delivering the Syrian G2 brief I would point out that:
Keeping US forces bogged down in Iraq means they are too busy to pay us a visit;
The unwillingness of the US public to treat this like a war - ie no increase in force sizes, no moves to a war economy, no moves to ease dependence on imports from the Gulf - means that no new forces will be available;
Therefore any action will be air power acting alone;
As the Serbs have shown very convincingly that's not enough to destroy combat power;
And the US will be very vulnerable to strikes aimed at economic targets - the mere threat of a conflict will send the tankers scattering and oil prices through the roof;
Meanwhile widespread civilian casualties will further isolate the US and Israel;
And if we're lucky Iran will kick off rather than wait to be next on the list, cue severing of supply lines in Iraq, general Shia uprising, a tanker war and so on;
Maybe Hizb'Allah too, to keep the Israelis busy - maybe Hamas as well ...

Life is not a Tom Clancy novel and these trite analogies do not represent reality. I do like his books though, but I also note the bit that calls it "fiction".
 
#17
PartTimePongo said:
Maybe if Syria stops infiltrating terrorists into Iraq, and stops supplying weapons to Hezbollah murderers, the US won't feel obliged to be unfriendly to them. All a bully deserves is a few good hard kicks in the teeth, and unfortunately Syria hasn't gotten that from us. Yet.

One can always hope.

Syria is infiltrating terrorists into Iraq. Is she? I thought they were busy rounding up those of a terrorist bent they can find? Fundementalist Islam is not high on Syria's must do list. Supplying weapons to Hezbollah , very possibly. America supplies arms to Israel , what's your point?

A bully deserves...... Sorry , who was it that brought peace to the Lebanon again? A clue -NOT Israel. Who exactly has Syria bullied?

Now if America hadn't been listening to Israel exclusively , and destabilised the region by demanding immediate as opposed to phased (and the vaccuum replaced) Syrian withdrawl from Lebanon, would they have just gone through what they did? It seems as soon as Syria was out of there, Israel was straight in and got a slap for her troubles.

Syria should have been publicly brought onside a long time ago , enough hints were dropped and I am glad to see the adminstration use the flimsiest of excuses to get that hand out. America and we are going to need as many working partners in the region as we can muster.

If you want to believe Syria hasn't already been working with the US in some way against terrorism , then that is up to you.

Given the number of reports and articles I've read regarding infiltration of troops and supplies from Syria down through Fallujah into Baghdad, it sure as Shinola looks to me like the Syrians are having a merry olde time supporting the insurgency. The Ho Chi Minh Trail it's not, but there is logistics support being provided by Syria.

Yes, America supplies arms to Israel--a liberal democracy, the ONLY country in the Middle East with freedom of religion (you realize there are Arab Muslims in the Knesset--how many Jews in Syrian government?), while Syria provides arms to a terrorist organization with an avowed mission to wipe out the state of Israel, and which makes it an official policy to target civilian targets. When was the last time Israel obliterated an Arab country (given that in '73 Damascus was ripe for the taking...)?

Maybe if Syria recognized the right of Israel to exist, stopped supplying and funding baby killers, and ended its policy of the extermination of Middle Eastern Jewry, they could begin sitting at the big kids' table for holiday meals. Until then, they're unruly little fcuks who really need a good hard paddling.
 
#18
PartTimePongo said:
Maybe if Syria stops infiltrating terrorists into Iraq, and stops supplying weapons to Hezbollah murderers, the US won't feel obliged to be unfriendly to them. All a bully deserves is a few good hard kicks in the teeth, and unfortunately Syria hasn't gotten that from us. Yet.

One can always hope.

Syria is infiltrating terrorists into Iraq. Is she? I thought they were busy rounding up those of a terrorist bent they can find? Fundementalist Islam is not high on Syria's must do list. Supplying weapons to Hezbollah , very possibly. America supplies arms to Israel , what's your point?

A bully deserves...... Sorry , who was it that brought peace to the Lebanon again? A clue -NOT Israel. Who exactly has Syria bullied?

Now if America hadn't been listening to Israel exclusively , and destabilised the region by demanding immediate as opposed to phased (and the vaccuum replaced) Syrian withdrawl from Lebanon, would they have just gone through what they did? It seems as soon as Syria was out of there, Israel was straight in and got a slap for her troubles.

Syria should have been publicly brought onside a long time ago , enough hints were dropped and I am glad to see the adminstration use the flimsiest of excuses to get that hand out. America and we are going to need as many working partners in the region as we can muster.

If you want to believe Syria hasn't already been working with the US in some way against terrorism , then that is up to you.
There have certainly been Syrian terrorists in Iraq (a Marine I know was very specific about that, he was fighting them for most of his tour in '04), but I agree that it has not been with the Syrian Governments consent. I'd liken it more to being along the lines of NORAID.

edited: Yank_Lurker, while I can sympathize on many levels, Israel is certainly not Blameless in the affair. The state of Israel has the right to exist, but it has its share of dirty laundry along with everyone else in the region.
 
#19
Oh there have been Syrian terrorists CJ , no doubt about it. But, Yank_Lurker implies it is state sponsored. I don't think even the US Government has levelled that accusation , but I may be wrong.
 
#20
PartTimePongo said:
Oh there have been Syrian terrorists CJ , no doubt about it. But, Yank_Lurker implies it is state sponsored. I don't think even the US Government has levelled that accusation , but I may be wrong.
I know. I was actually siding with you. I probably should have been more clear
 

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