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Type 31 Frigate

From the Times Defence Correspondant:


Lucy Fisher
@LOS_Fisher



NEW: Boris Johnson announces plan to restore UK to "foremost naval power in Europe" He confirms Royal Navy will acquire: - 8x Type 26 & 5x Type 31 frigates - New Type 32 frigates - Multi-role research vessels - Fleet Solid Support ships

It seems clear the Type 32 would be additional hulls of a derived or new type..

An unsurprising intervention from Max Hastings.

'I told a uniformed friend that I am waiting eagerly to hear about the new maritime strategy to which the government seems committed, following its go-ahead for more warships for the Royal Navy, including Type 32 frigates. He laughed heartily and explained that the ship build was authorised to help BAE stay in business. The company has a poor record in ship construction — Polish labour had to be enlisted to complete the navy’s giant aircraft-carriers. But it seems politically unacceptable, when other flagship companies such as Rolls-Royce are tottering, not to shore up BAE.

'The company received the additional fillip of support for Tempest, the next-generation RAF combat aircraft on its drawing-boards, though some of us question whether, as drones become ever more potent, such a plane will be relevant.'


Nato needs more than brave words to survive
 
Aye.

We got a lot less frigate than we should/could have.

It's interesting to note that in the footage of the Defence Select Committee above the T31 is described as not suitable for NATO duties. That's not strictly true but it could have been a far better solution and it's interesting that at least some people regard it to be sub-optimal enough to describe it as such.

it’s a patrol frigate, nothing more, big to impress, enough weapons to defend itself, but not a warfighter. It has no ASW or ASuW capability.
it’s a modern Tribal class Frigate.
 

Bob65

War Hero
T31 is very sparse for the size of ship it is. Especially given that we halved the number of VLS.

Continuing the fine tradition set by T45.

Incidentally nowhere is it set in stone that T31 is limited to 5 hulls. There can be as many of them as you want (or can pay for), the assembly line for them hasn't closed.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Continuing the fine tradition set by T45.

Incidentally nowhere is it set in stone that T31 is limited to 5 hulls. There can be as many of them as you want (or can pay for), the assembly line for them hasn't closed.
Aye. It'd be nice to see them have a few more bits and boobs on them, though.

Or more T26s.
 
An unsurprising intervention from Max Hastings.

'I told a uniformed friend that I am waiting eagerly to hear about the new maritime strategy to which the government seems committed, following its go-ahead for more warships for the Royal Navy, including Type 32 frigates. He laughed heartily and explained that the ship build was authorised to help BAE stay in business. The company has a poor record in ship construction — Polish labour had to be enlisted to complete the navy’s giant aircraft-carriers. But it seems politically unacceptable, when other flagship companies such as Rolls-Royce are tottering, not to shore up BAE.

'The company received the additional fillip of support for Tempest, the next-generation RAF combat aircraft on its drawing-boards, though some of us question whether, as drones become ever more potent, such a plane will be relevant.'


Nato needs more than brave words to survive
Hastings opining from after orifice as usual. Suspect his "uniformed friend" was about as well informed as Kermit the Frog - particularly as the Type 32 does not exist in any funded form until the back end of the decade - and certainly not nailed on for BAES.

Continuing the fine tradition set by T45.

Incidentally nowhere is it set in stone that T31 is limited to 5 hulls. There can be as many of them as you want (or can pay for), the assembly line for them hasn't closed.

Ain't no such thing as an assembly line for ships. It's also fair to say that the production facilities for the T31 aren't finished yet.
 
@Lindermyer nails it. You've drunk the KoolAid, huh?

T31 is very sparse for the size of ship it is. Especially given that we halved the number of VLS.
Yup. With the current armament it's hardly likely to strike fear into the hearts of her majesty's enemies.

Might be able to stop itself taking a slap but doesn't look like it'll be doing much else.
 

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