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TV Licences

#1
"All Single Living in personnel are to have a photo copied copy of their TV Licence to the SSM by COP "

"Must have Licence behind door"


Why WTF has it got to do with the Army, regardless of singly accommodation do they need to see my own personal details with a licencing authority they have nothing to do with, If I am naughty and get caught its a civil offence, I pay fine and if anything else is involved then it goes to military !

Do they wanna see any speeding tickets and fines in my civilian car, so they can agai me ?
 

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#2
"All Single Living in personnel are to have a photo copied copy of their TV Licence to the SSM by COP "

"Must have Licence behind door"


Why WTF has it got to do with the Army, regardless of singly accommodation do they need to see my own personal details with a licencing authority they have nothing to do with, If I am naughty and get caught its a civil offence, I pay fine and if anything else is involved then it goes to military !

Do they wanna see any speeding tickets and fines in my civilian car, so they can agai me ?
Not been to BFG then?
 
#4
Why WTF has it got to do with the Army, regardless of singly accommodation do they need to see my own personal details with a licencing authority they have nothing to do with
Erm, because it's on the standing orders for your camp & is a prevalent offence for singlies to have unlicenced TVs?

Do they wanna see any speeding tickets and fines in my civilian car, so they can agai me ?
Again it's a while since I left the mob but in my day these things had to be disclosed, especially if one was going for vetting or one's job involved driving...
 
#5
A British soldier is under British Law wherever he may be, Which means by all technicality you should have a TV license while your in Afghan let alone Single Living Accom. Maybe we should get a couple of Bods from the RMP to start wandering around with detector kit :D

If you have a TV license just photocopy it and send it, Theres no details on a TV license the army doesnt already have. If you dont have a TV license get one you cheap Bar Steward and stop whining like a frenchman who has lost his garlic :D
 
#6
A British soldier is under British Law wherever he may be, Which means by all technicality you should have a TV license while your in Afghan let alone Single Living Accom. Maybe we should get a couple of Bods from the RMP to start wandering around with detector kit :D

If you have a TV license just photocopy it and send it, Theres no details on a TV license the army doesnt already have. If you dont have a TV license get one you cheap Bar Steward and stop whining like a frenchman who has lost his garlic :D
You only legally require a license if you watch "live" TV, if you only watch DVD's, use it as a monitor or watch streaming TV then you do not require a license.

The RMP could wander about camp all they want with a detector, there's no such thing as TV detectors or detector vans.

Being subject to British law overseas is somewhat irrelevant, you adhere to the laws of that country even if it means driving on the wrong side of the road, you do not need a license if you are overseas unless local laws require one.
 
#7
I think you need to remove the capacity to watch live TV to get away with that. I know one of the big things they do in Civvy street is use the implied right of an open gate to enter your property and look through the window to see if your watching telly. A Sign with no entry without appointment is enough to stop that.
 
#9
A British soldier is under British Law wherever he may be, Which means by all technicality you should have a TV license while your in Afghan let alone Single Living Accom. Maybe we should get a couple of Bods from the RMP to start wandering around with detector kit :D
You can get a refund on you TV license if you are away for a certain time (3 months I think)
Pads should have TV licenses as well, is the SSM going to wonder round the quarters checking?
Obviously the SSM doesnt have a proper job.
 
#11
There is a culture of distortion about TV licenses. TV Licensing (the organisation) does not exist, it is a trading name of the BBC. Anyone who pitches up at the gate claiming to be from TV Licensing is lying. All TV License "inspectors" are civilian employees of Capita, they have no rights of entry to camp (or anywhere else), in fact as they are not CRB checked or vetted in any fashion they should be denied entry on security grounds.
 
#12
All TV License "inspectors" are civilian employees of Capita, they have no rights of entry to camp (or anywhere else), in fact as they are not CRB checked or vetted in any fashion they should be denied entry on security grounds.
I'm sure we have been here before. The MOD have an agreement with the BBC/Capita to be allowed access to camps and have done for some years.
 
#13
Excellent, so I have a massive 32" telly hooke up to my high powered PC, I download literally ALL of what I watch (which isn't live... I don't need a license? :)
 
#14
I'm sure we have been here before. The MOD have an agreement with the BBC/Capita to be allowed access to camps and have done for some years.
Anyone can get a job with Capita as an "Inspector", it's a good way to recce somewhere isn't it.

Excellent, so I have a massive 32" telly hooke up to my high powered PC, I download literally ALL of what I watch (which isn't live... I don't need a license? :)
No you don't need one.

Standing Orders however may say you do.
 
#17
Your Staffy is not one of the people empowered to inspect your television licence. Having no lawful authority to do that makes any order he (or indeed, the rest of the CoC) gives to that effect is an unlawful order, and you have no obligation to obey it. The television licensing regulations make it very clear who can demand to see your licence, and your landlord and or employer are not included. You can even get a TV licence sent to you from the Licensing Authority by e-mail, and are only required to print it out if a TV Licensing officer wishes to see it. As someone who has a licence at home, I don't need another one to watch tv on my laptop. I have consistently ignored requests (masquerading as orders) to have a photocopy of my licence in my SSA for years, and have argued the point on occasion.
 
#19
You can even get a TV licence sent to you from the Licensing Authority by e-mail, and are only required to print it out if a TV Licensing officer wishes to see it.
There is no such thing as a "TV Licensing officer", there are only Capita employees. He can wish to see anything he wants, you are not obliged to show him, nor are you obliged to do anything else. You can answer the door and instruct him to leave if you wish or simply not answer the door.

Capita employees have no powers to do anything.

No one in law can demand to see a TV License, Standing Orders however.

As an aside, it is not beyond the wit of man to spend a few minutes with photoshop to produce a photocopied TV License for handing in or posting by the door.
 
#20
"All Single Living in personnel are to have a photo copied copy of their TV Licence to the SSM by COP "

"Must have Licence behind door"


Why WTF has it got to do with the Army, regardless of singly accommodation do they need to see my own personal details with a licencing authority they have nothing to do with, If I am naughty and get caught its a civil offence, I pay fine and if anything else is involved then it goes to military !

Do they wanna see any speeding tickets and fines in my civilian car, so they can agai me ?
Regardless of living in single accommodation does not really count does it? Because you are living in that accommodation you need to comply with Army wide, through Bde and Regtl policy and buy a licence if you have a TV set. Your SSM is not 'out to get you', he will be following orders from the RSM, directed by the CO, directed by the CoC to ensure that all living in members comply with the law.

As an aside the Army has tried, and failed, to negotiate a camp/garrison licence avoiding this requirement but to no avail.

I can guarantee that your SSM has better things to do than chase trivia such as this but, if you want to be arsey about it, I am sure he could start to find the time to audit every single electrical item in the block, have it PAT tested and dispose of anything that fails that test. Then under Environmental Health/SHE he could start slowing down your escape on leave and weekends by ensuring all items in both your work and living space are shut down correctly, as per policy, to save both the environment and the budget.

I am not absolutely sure on this, due to human rights etc., but suspect he could also insist that you remove the TV from your room as you are not complying with policy. I am sure the RSM would love to sit down and have a chat with you about it, give him a shout!

Failing that, set up a direct debit for a whole £10 per month, just as virtually every household in the country does and post the licence behind your door!
 

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