Tusk Shows His Impartiality and Diplomacy

You're welcome to show me, with a link, how I'm wrong. Or you can keep on claiming stuff that doesn't add up and mashing buttons. I think I know what'll happen here.
I've provided the link which you've chosen to misinterpret. You're cherry-picking the data provided to show a lower figure, while I'm using the full data set. For example, you believe this shouldn't be included, whereas I do:

EUR-Lex - 32019R0248 - EN - EUR-Lex

PS I think I know what'll happen here. Yawn.
 
I think the privatisation of our rail transport, power and water had more to do with ideology than any thought of appeasing Europe.

Our steel industry is a weird one. The eu wanted to do something about the dumping of Chinese steel, it was Cameron prevented a euro wide stop to that one.....which led to Port Talbot and Tata.
That’s certainly how it was sold to us. Unfortunately Rail has never functioned properly since 1947 because it was not constructed on socialist principles. Royal Mail was devised as a secure means to correspond. Therefore it has always been Nationalised and was called the Postal Service. Clues in the name.
 
Tusk again proving his credentials as a throbbing sock by suggesting we need a long extension to reconsider our Brexit strategy. That's right Don, none of us really want to leave the EU, none of us support democracy and none of us want to know what direction you'd like to lead the EU next. Here's an idea, come over here and debate it with us.... no?
EU's Tusk to propose long Brexit extension
 

Oyibo

LE
Tusk again proving his credentials as a throbbing sock by suggesting we need a long extension to reconsider our Brexit strategy. That's right Don, none of us really want to leave the EU, none of us support democracy and none of us want to know what direction you'd like to lead the EU next. Here's an idea, come over here and debate it with us.... no?
EU's Tusk to propose long Brexit extension
The Times headline is rather more succinct:

EU will agree to extra time if there is a second Brexit referendum

The European Union is poised to tell Theresa May that she must hold a second referendum or soften Brexit in return for them granting a lengthy delay to Britain’s departure date.
 
An interesting little video on the Telegraph website (takes a few seconds to spool up):

'Special place in hell, squandering Churchill's legacy': Watch the nastiest things the EU has said about Brexit

It does rather show the contempt EU officials have for Britain's democratic choice, and strongly indicates why they have been blocking just about every suggestion that Britain's team have made.
I am presently reading Yanis Varoufkis's book, Adults in the Room'.
From this very good read it is obvious that the EU has no respect for any democratic institution.
It also corroborates @LeoRoverman 's comments that the whole EU exists only for France and German big business and banking interests.
 
An interesting little video on the Telegraph website (takes a few seconds to spool up):

'Special place in hell, squandering Churchill's legacy': Watch the nastiest things the EU has said about Brexit

It does rather show the contempt EU officials have for Britain's democratic choice, and strongly indicates why they have been blocking just about every suggestion that Britain's team have made.
Those silly soundbites don't even begin to demonstrate the sheer vindictiveness of the EU "elite" & their determination to f*ck us over, no matter what the cost to those insignificant nothings, also known as voters.
The "project" is everything & any opposition must be vilified whether or not it's right & the same behaviour is shown by it's lickspittle adherents like Baggers, grac & crusty.
Insecure, mean spirited & capable of criminal excess describes your average EUrofanatic & we all know where that kind of behaviour has led in the past.
 

Londo

LE
Those silly soundbites don't even begin to demonstrate the sheer vindictiveness of the EU "elite" & their determination to f*ck us over, no matter what the cost to those insignificant nothings, also known as voters.
The "project" is everything & any opposition must be vilified whether or not it's right & the same behaviour is shown by it's lickspittle adherents like Baggers, grac & crusty.
Insecure, mean spirited & capable of criminal excess describes your average EUrofanatic & we all know where that kind of behaviour has led in the past.
Remember they have to punish us for " having the audacity for wanting to leave " Think that was a quote by Junker . Someone correct me if Im wrong .
 
From this very good read it is obvious that the EU has no respect for any democratic institution.
To be fair, the Greeks had no respect for other people's money. All well and good the Greeks complaining that that "democracy" was being overturned.....but they wanted and needed the money.
 
That’s certainly how it was sold to us. Unfortunately Rail has never functioned properly since 1947 because it was not constructed on socialist principles. Royal Mail was devised as a secure means to correspond. Therefore it has always been Nationalised and was called the Postal Service. Clues in the name.
Worked under the Protectorate!

Oliver Cromwell | The British Postal Museum & Archive blog

Even if they opened everything......
 
I think the privatisation of our rail transport, power and water had more to do with ideology than any thought of appeasing Europe.

Our steel industry is a weird one. The eu wanted to do something about the dumping of Chinese steel, it was Cameron prevented a euro wide stop to that one.....which led to Port Talbot and Tata.
Privatisation is part of free trade principles, the economic policy that works. It is anathema to the EU who run protectionism and subsidy for failure as policy. The problem of this, as the Labour party repeatedly finds when it's in government, is that eventually subsidising enough failures brings down the economy.
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
Privatisation is part of free trade principles, the economic policy that works. It is anathema to the EU who run protectionism and subsidy for failure as policy. The problem of this, as the Labour party repeatedly finds when it's in government, is that eventually subsidising enough failures brings down the economy.
So we leave the Eu and continue to send our utilities profits back to the Eu. And as for protectionism and subsidy, Given the state of GBs rail service against Austria’s and Germany maybe we should take lessons. Work out where their affordable, clean and reliable service is going wrong.
 
So we leave the Eu and continue to send our utilities profits back to the Eu. And as for protectionism and subsidy, Given the state of GBs rail service against Austria’s and Germany maybe we should take lessons. Work out where their affordable, clean and reliable service is going wrong.
It helps when you throw other peoples money at problems

Deutsche Bahn execs to discuss how to pull company out of debt

But even then, its not perfect

Deutsche Bahn flaws prompt calls for basic railway reform | DW | 16.12.2018
 
So we leave the Eu and continue to send our utilities profits back to the EU. And as for protectionism and subsidy, Given the state of GBs rail service against Austria’s and Germany maybe we should take lessons. Work out where their affordable, clean and reliable service is going wrong.
Well if Dbahn are running our railways presumably they'll be as good as Dbahns. Funny that becaue last time I was in Germany the joke was that Dbahn hadn't forseen the snow and stopped running. As one my German colleagues said "It's not like it's England were it doesn't snow every Winter, but no they never see it coming".
 
the remainders are now the complainers!
 

Latest Threads

Top