Tusk Shows His Impartiality and Diplomacy

I suspect you think your online rages are normal and proportionate.

They are not; and neither are you.
He's retroactively dobbing all my posts this afternoon.

Had his picture taken next to a plane once, thinks he's Leonard Cheshire
 
Guy is weird. Although amusingly whenever I read one of his posts, I always imagine it being said in the voice of Trigger from Only Fools and Horses.
Interestingly I think that Tusk sounds like Tommy Wiseau. I'd like to hear him say, "Oh hi Mark!"
 
To be fair, the phot needs some context....

Józef Tusk - Wikipedia

A member of the Kashubian minority, Józef Tusk was born in Gdańsk (Danzig, German Empire) to Józef Tusk (1870–1910)[1] and Augustyna Tusk (née Adamczyk; 1870–1962).[2]He became a citizen of the Free City of Danzig after World War I and worked for the Polish railway in the Free City.[3][4] He became a member of the Polish Secret Military Organization (Tajna Organizacja Wojskowa, TOW), which prepared behind-the-lines operatives in case of the war. On 1 September 1938 Tusk was placed in the position of the telegraphist in the Danzig (Gdańsk) railway station. It is likely, but not confirmed, that he had been working with the Polish intelligence services.[5] On 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, the Free City of Danzig was incorporated into the German Reich and the citizens of the Free City became German nationals. Tusk was assaulted in his house in the morning, and later witnessed German arrests of Poles at the railway station, and the Defence of the Polish Post in Danzig.[5]

Józef Tusk reported the assault to Danzig police, and was subsequently arrested as a Polish activist, described as a "Polish fanatic, dangerous to the security of the German State"; his family on the same day was evicted from their house.[5] Tusk was a forced laborer working in the construction of the Stutthof concentration camp[5][6] In 1941 he was interviewed by Gestapo and imprisoned in Neuengamme concentration camp.[7] On 26 August 1942 he was released from Neuengamme.[7]

On 2 August 1944 Tusk was conscripted into Wehrmacht, into the 328. Grenadier-Ersatz- und Ausbildungsbatallion (328th Grenadier Replacement and Training Battalion).[7][8][9]After about four months, around 24 November 1944 or soon afterward, he either deserted, defecting to the Polish Armed Forces in the West, or was imprisoned in an Allied prisoners-of-war camp.[10][11]

Józef Tusk returned to Sopot, where his family moved to, in the People's Republic of Poland, in mid-October 1945.[11] According to his family and friends, he never spoke much about his wartime history.

He sounds OK to me.
Funny how so many of the non German E.U. elite have a closet Nazi past,.... tusk, Junker..
 
I place more faith in some of the people that work for him that place the interests of the United States as a whole, above their personal legacy. A fairish deal that both sides hate, that will last long term is what is needed. One that completely fucks over the other side, might bring short term gain. However in the long run it could be problematic when you are out for blood and want payback. It is a balancing act between profit and long term planning.

Nobody likes a car salesmen when they find out they have been conned, and you will never go back to them again. I would rather keep you as a reliable partner for decades then burn that bridge for short term gain.
We have billions in trade ready to switch to the US from EU. Or to anyone who wants it and can deliver reciprocal market access.

If the US want the business, they'll offer a fair deal. If they don't then business as usual as we'll be on the same tarrif schedule with the US as we are now.
 
We have billions in trade ready to switch to the US from EU. Or to anyone who wants it and can deliver reciprocal market access.

If the US want the business, they'll offer a fair deal. If they don't then business as usual as we'll be on the same tarrif schedule with the US as we are now.
Oh I am sure plans are also being drawn up to penetrate your markets, and bring American Fads to your shores. I will buy lots of Scotch if you take the Kardashian’s!! Shit I think you could get quite the chunk From millions of Americans who hate them.
 
Both halves of the panto horse are chatting to each other, one moaning about being dobbed!
Are these people for real?
 
They seem absolutely certain that it'll all be glory forever/eternal hellfire come March 29.
I brings me great comfort to know that should the UK leave the EU on 29th March on WTO terms the fires of hell that, according to Tusk, awaits us leavers, will be quenched by the bitter tears of remainers.
 
I brings me great comfort to know that should the UK leave the EU on 29th March on WTO terms the fires of hell that, according to Tusk, awaits us leavers, will be quenched by the bitter tears of remainers.
Baggys overwhelmed with job offers to sit on the top floor of buildings with Grenfell style cladding post 29/3
 

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True I thought she was safe for a year!? But your political rules and process are hard to follow. You need a Clifts notes for Septics so those of us not in the State Department can follow along.
It's easy. We have lots of political parties but only two in England that mean anything and have a hope of forming a government.

Each party votes internally to elect a leader. This leader is then the best friend and saviour of half the party and the sworn enemy of those who didn't vote for him/her. Thus each leadership contest fragments the party and spells political doom for those voting the wrong way.

Then we have the local elections. These elect local councillors whose job is to sit around plotting how to arrange a jolly councillors' outing to somewhere nice. In their spare time they fiddle the expenses, raise Council Tax (an all-encompassing tax that you pay for using local services) and reduce local spending claiming that the council is broke. Local councillors might belong to one of the main political parties but are more likely to be simply ambitious locals who begin thinking they can help the community and soon realise that local communities can be best helped by twinning them with attractive holiday destination to which the councillors can arrange all-expenses paid fact-finding trips and outings.

The general election is the time when all parties get to pay vast sums of other people's money to come up with the most outrageous lies they can think of. This is either about what they will definitely do when they get into power, or about what the opposition will definitely do. Bonus points are awarded for accusations of racism, elitism, Socialism, or having not planned their budgetary promises properly. The vote elects local MPs who are usually members of the main political parties. Occasionally an errant Green or Independent gets elected but everyone likes the occasional joke so it is tolerated.

Once the Queen decides that her subjects have made a reasonably competent job of voting, she will ask the leader of the winning party to form a government. It is possible that no party has an outright majority and so the search for allies begins in order to form a coalition government. At this point, all bets are off and any previous opposing political stances are essentially discarded in the undignified rush by small parties to be allowed to say they are in government. It's the equivalent of having an evening violently arguing with a woman you find disgusting, only to end up taking her home for some horizontal jogging.

Once in power, it is the sworn duty of every winning MP to forget every election promise and begin plotting to become leader, which results in fragmented governments and disjointed parties. The leader rewards loyalty with government offices, on the assumption that a loyal party member is better for the country than someone who knows what they are doing.

In the meantime, the Civil Service run the country and occasionally get their minister to read things and sign forms in the hope that the minister will not be tempted to actually make an independent decision.
 
replacing one partner which whom we have the actual ties through the history with someone whose bitch we were in last world war isn't really a good deal. On the contrary- it's a rather bad deal.
Despite they speak language similar to ours, they don't think like we do. And monolinguism is something that we should take no pride of.
You say we were America's bitch in the second world war yet during that war our brave citizens fought and died alongside each other fighting against those who you claim we have actual ties with.

These historic ties with our European cousins: over the last couple of hundred years we have fought wars against France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Holland, Denmark-Norway, Russia, the Swiss, Hungary, Ireland, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania, Finland, Albania, Yugoslavia. In fact, pretty much every European country at one time or other.
 
You say we were America's bitch in the second world war yet during that war our brave citizens fought and died alongside each other fighting against those who you claim we have actual ties with.

These historic ties with our European cousins: over the last couple of hundred years we have fought wars against France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden, Holland, Denmark-Norway, Russia, the Swiss, Hungary, Ireland, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania, Finland, Albania, Yugoslavia. In fact, pretty much every European country at one time or other.

I just don't see why historic conflicts - like things that literally happened 100s of years ago area relevant to the debate, or even more extraordinary guide our actual behaviour.

It's literally the same train of thought used by Muslim extremists to justify killing Christians and Jews, or the blacks in SA who are talking about murdering the white settlers.

Not to mention if our Commonwealth colleagues were to use the same logic, then surely they wouldn't want to trade with us?
 
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I just don't see why historic conflicts - like things that literally happened 100s of years ago area relevant to the debate...
Ask @ViolatorOfVirgins who brought it up, suggesting Europe = good, America = bad. My point being that just because we are of the same continent our shared history has never been a bed of roses.
 
@ViolatorOfVirgins would you care to engage in debate rather than just leaving a funny smilie? Judging by your poor grasp of English I'm beginning to think you're European, perhaps you have your own dog in this race? Though I do think it's a bit rich when I hear European people in Britain bleating on about the perils of Brexit, they don't seem to grasp the hypocrisy.
 
Ask @ViolatorOfVirgins who brought it up, suggesting Europe = good, America = bad. My point being that just because we are of the same continent our shared history has never been a bed of roses.

Pros and Con's to both sides of the coin.
Europe is closer and you will have to deal with them. America is far away, so you can distance yourselves from us when it suits you. American's minus the plastic paddy kind don't have a clue what is going on and tend to view you in a favorable fashion. You are always Posh to much of the US.
 

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