To be fair though, your first paragraph is still very much true. The problem is the politicians want to punish us, much of EU industry would like a deal for those very reasons above as they exist to make money, not to form a supra-national body.Except of course that in the run up to the referendum, every Brexiteer including all the so called hard liners were proclaiming loudly from their soap boxes that of course a deal would be done with the EU. We are a huge market for the EU! They will go out of their way to ensure that they can continue selling their goods to us!
Those that said the EU would stuff us on any proposals for a trading deal were robustly put down as cowardly, ill informed and extremely stupid.
Funny how all that's been forgotten!
I don't disagree but my point is still accurate. The voting public were either intentionally misled or the referendum remainers weren't the stupid one's in the debate.The EU is acting like a noisy and frightened little poodle, barking furiously trying to convince itself its a Rottweiler
Maybe a case of the blindly optimistic leading the blind. The EU have done everything in their power to prevent a planned and sensible withdrawal. You only have to look at their previous form to understand how they'd deal with this negotiation. It was in both parties' interest to negotiate sensibly, we tried - they just kept saying NO. Entirely predictable. They also have to deal with us going forward and it's their poison that's souring the relationship, not ours.But it wasn't. For many, many months now the UK Plc narrative has been that there would be a deal.
Of all the negatives, remain stated would occur immediately after an out vote, how many actually happened?
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A little strong even for someone whose future depends largely on how Britain's exit from the EU leave the rest of the alliance. Whatever happened to diplomacy being well... diplomatic?
Some of us interpreted the rhetoric as meaning that a deal would be sought, not that a deal would be guaranteed. What is often lost is that 'No Deal' is still a deal, albeit one that the EU do not want. They want the UK to remain part of the EU both to prop up the EU's internal economy and to lend the whole enterprise credence.
Some of us interpreted the rhetoric as meaning that a deal would be sought, not that a deal would be guaranteed. What is often lost is that 'No Deal' is still a deal, albeit one that the EU do not want. They want the UK to remain part of the UK both to prop up the EU's internal economy and to lend the whole enterprise credence.
Leaving with 'No Deal' simply means that we are in the same position as we were before joining - able to make our global trading and laws deals free from EU legislation.
no thanks, Id rather you gave the specifics of your assertion so we can discuss them.I'm quoting from my memory but It's common knowledge. Just Google the Referendum leave campaign material and public speeches by leading brexiteers and fill your boots.
We were misled by the taxer payer funded Pro EU leaflet sent to everyhouse hold, when we asked about whether we should be lied to and have to pay for an EU propaganda leaflet?I'm quoting from my memory but It's common knowledge. Just Google the Referendum leave campaign material and public speeches by leading brexiteers and fill your boots.
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