Turkey / Libya crisis?

There was an article a couple of weeks back in 'The Times' about Erdogan getting involved in Somalia. Apparently he is trying to recreate a new Ottoman empire in spite of Attaturks post Ottoman policy at the founding of Modern policy.

Good luck to him. He can take all the refugees. Nothing to do with us. Does Uncle Sam still send military aid to Turkey. If they do, it looks like a big saving for The Donald to bring back to the USA.
 
There was an article a couple of weeks back in 'The Times' about Erdogan getting involved in Somalia. Apparently he is trying to recreate a new Ottoman empire in spite of Attaturks post Ottoman policy at the founding of Modern policy.

Good luck to him. He can take all the refugees. Nothing to do with us.
You may wish to reconsider that
 
Report on levels of Turkish involvement in Libya with, if accurate, one very worrying development.

'SOHR activists have documented a spike in the number of Syrian mercenaries who joined the military operations in Libya and killed there, to 117. The fatalities are of the factions “al-Mu’tasim Division, Sultan Murad, Suqur Al-Shamal Brigade, Al-Hamzat and Suleiman Shah”.

'According to very reliable SOHR sources, the fatalities were killed in clashes in Salah Al-Din in the south of Tripoli, frontline in Al-Ramlah near Tripoli Airport, and Al-Hadabah Project area. The casualties are taken to three medical points (Al-Mashtal Sanitarium, Qaddour Sanitarium, Ghout Al-Sha’al Sanitarium). It is noteworthy that nearly 150 fighters of those who arrived earlier in Libya, crossed to Europe.

'The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has recently refrained from publishing any Libya-related Syrian mercenaries information due to the intense and brutal Russian-led regime assaults on Idlib and Aleppo and the ensuing killing and destruction that plagued the region. Over the recent period, SOHR sources reported that the number of recruits who arrived in Tripoli up to date, rose to nearly 4,750, while nearly 1,900 others arrived in Turkey to undergo training courses.

'Despite the number of mercenaries who volunteered to go to Libya has exceeded 6,000, the number that Turkey requested, recruitment is still spreading in Afrin, areas under control of “Euphrates Shield” factions and NE Syria region. The volunteers are fighters of the factions “al-Mu’tasim Division, Sultan Murad, Suqur Al-Shamal Brigade, Al-Hamzat, Al-Sham Corps, Suliman Shah and Samarkand Brigade”.'


 

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Why on Earth would Turkey want to get involved in Somalia? What possible advantage does it offer them? How does that sit with the African Union who have peacekeepers on the ground and neighbouring states like Kenya?

I also do not get why Ankara is so keen on getting both hands stuck in the Libyan mangle? Why the rivalry with Egypt? I thought they used to be close allies?
 
Why on Earth would Turkey want to get involved in Somalia? What possible advantage does it offer them? How does that sit with the African Union who have peacekeepers on the ground and neighbouring states like Kenya?

I also do not get why Ankara is so keen on getting both hands stuck in the Libyan mangle? Why the rivalry with Egypt? I thought they used to be close allies?
... in the days before Sultan Recip the Magnificent came to power to re-establish the Ottoman Empire.
 
Turkey certainly has the knowledge to comment on sources of instability in the MENA, in a bit of pot/kettle deflection.

'Turkey accused the United Arab Emirates on Tuesday of bringing chaos to the Middle East through its interventions in Libya and Yemen, allegations which are likely to inflame tensions between the regional rivals.

'Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu was responding to criticism of Turkey’s role in the Libyan conflict, where it has deployed military personnel and helped send Syrian fighters to support the internationally recognised government in Tripoli. The United Arab Emirates and Egypt, which back the forces of Khalifa Haftar trying to storm the Libyan capital, issued a joint statement with Greece, Cyprus and France on Monday condemning “Turkey’s military interference in Libya”.

'Cavusoglu told Turkish broadcaster Akit TV that the United Arab Emirates, along with Egypt and other countries he did not name, were “trying to destabilise the whole region”, but he singled out Abu Dhabi for particular criticism. “If you are asking who is destabilising this region, who is bringing chaos, then we would say Abu Dhabi without any hesitation,” he said. “It is a reality that they are the force that unsettled Libya and destroyed Yemen.”

'The UAE did not immediately respond to Cavusoglu’s criticism.'


 
Russia has upped the ante in Libya even more. Reports in show Russia has sent at least 14 combat jets to Libya with Russian ‘ex'-military pilots flying them as mercs.

14 unmarked Russian aircraft have now been delivered to Al Jufra Air Base according to satellite imagery from ImageSat International shot on May 23.

Other developments include a small motor pool near hardened aircraft shelters, and erection of a new radar.

Russia wants to bolster Haftar's LNA who is friendly to Moscow and has recently not been faring well against the Turkish backed GNA.

The war is being supported by regional and European powers, especially Turkey, Russia, the United Arab Emirates, France and Egypt, which have each backed sides for a variety of reasons, oil and gas contracts, territory, and ideological and strategic goals.

Turkey and Russia, in particular, have both escalated military and political efforts increasing the chances of direct confrontation and plunging Libya into a Syria-like conflict.

Russia already has bases in Syria, and more bases in Libya will only reinforce its position on NATO’s southern flank. Its present moves introduce advanced 4th gen jets, coordinated missile strikes, and precision-guided artillery, as well as snipers under the mantle of Wagner. The response of the US/NATO could well be to increase aid to the LNA and ramp up the cost of support to the GNA from Russia.

Turkey's support of Government of National Accord has included Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 armed drones and BMC Kirpi armoured vehicles along with paid Syrian mercs. Turkeys drones and jamming has resulted in the LNA losing numbers of the Pantsir units
 
Russia has upped the ante in Libya even more. Reports in show Russia has sent at least 14 combat jets to Libya with Russian ‘ex'-military pilots flying them as mercs.

14 unmarked Russian aircraft have now been delivered to Al Jufra Air Base according to satellite imagery from ImageSat International shot on May 23.

Other developments include a small motor pool near hardened aircraft shelters, and erection of a new radar.

Russia wants to bolster Haftar's LNA who is friendly to Moscow and has recently not been faring well against the Turkish backed GNA.

The war is being supported by regional and European powers, especially Turkey, Russia, the United Arab Emirates, France and Egypt, which have each backed sides for a variety of reasons, oil and gas contracts, territory, and ideological and strategic goals.

Turkey and Russia, in particular, have both escalated military and political efforts increasing the chances of direct confrontation and plunging Libya into a Syria-like conflict.

Russia already has bases in Syria, and more bases in Libya will only reinforce its position on NATO’s southern flank. Its present moves introduce advanced 4th gen jets, coordinated missile strikes, and precision-guided artillery, as well as snipers under the mantle of Wagner. The response of the US/NATO could well be to increase aid to the LNA and ramp up the cost of support to the GNA from Russia.

Turkey's support of Government of National Accord has included Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 armed drones and BMC Kirpi armoured vehicles along with paid Syrian mercs. Turkeys drones and jamming has resulted in the LNA losing numbers of the Pantsir units
Do try to keep up.

 

miner69er

Old-Salt
Reuters
“In the last few weeks, there has been a significant change in balance in Libya,” said a senior Turkish official, crediting Turkish drones and “untrained soldiers” operating LNA air defences.

It led, over the past month, to the LNA’s sudden loss of a string of towns near the Tunisian border, a crucial air base, a dozen of its own air defence systems and most of its foothold in Tripoli. With them went Haftar’s hopes of victory.

Over the same period, Russian military personnel have delivered some 14 MiG 29 and Su-24 fighter jets to the LNA’s Jufra air base in central Libya, the U.S. military said this week.

They are aircraft that could again turn the tide of war.
as always:
A Russian member of parliament and the LNA have denied the aircraft arrived.
 
Little green men are always denied by Russia as they don’t exist*.
*(But always seem to pop up when Russian foreign policy is going t*ts up.)

Turkish foreign policy these days always seems to end up tit’s up.*
*(Particularly, it seems, when Russia is involved.)
 

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