Turkey - a real turkey?

MissingOTC

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A report claiming that the UK has offered to sell Turkey aircraft carrier design

“They have offered to sell the design of an aircraft carrier and provide technical support during the construction in Turkey,” one of the sources said.



Unsure what they would fly off them....
 
And the S400 saga rolls on.

'Turkey will not turn back from its acquisition of Russian S-400 defense systems despite U.S. sanctions, it said on Thursday, but added it would seek to resolve issues with its NATO ally through dialogue.

'In December, Washington imposed sanctions on Ankara for acquiring the S-400s on grounds they threaten its F-35 fighter jets and are incompatible with shared NATO defences. Turkey rejects this and says the systems will stand independently from NATO defences.

'Since Joe Biden was elected U.S. president, Ankara has said it wants better ties and again proposed an S-400 joint working group. But Washington has repeatedly rejected that and says sanctions will remain until Turkey no longer possesses the missiles.

'Turkey’s defense minister said on Tuesday that Ankara would propose only partially activating the S-400s in negotiations with the United States, according to local media. Speaking in an interview with state broadcaster TRT Haber, presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said the minister’s comments had been misunderstood, but did not elaborate, adding talks were being held with Washington over disagreements, but that quick solutions to problems should not be expected. “The United States has so far said it will not engage in any negotiations over this issue (S-400s). Turkey will not turn back from the Russian S-400 issue,” Kalin said. “When we read the strategic picture the right way, we think we can make advances,” he said. “By proposing solution ways, we will be in negotiations,” he added, without elaborating.

'In a phone call last week that marked the first official contact between the allies since Biden took office, Kalin told U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan the S-400 dispute needed resolving. On Thursday, Kalin said he and Sullivan had agreed to hold another call in the coming days to specifically discuss their disagreements, adding that the two countries’ foreign ministers would also speak in the coming days.'


Turkey says it will not turn back from Russian S-400s - TRT Haber
 
Bellicose rhetoric for a domestic audience, but Erdogan consistently manages to take hypocrisy to new heights.

'Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday criticized the U.S. response to the death of 13 Turkish hostages in northern Iraq at the hands of the Kurdish militants the day before, saying it was not strong enough.

'Turkey said the Kurdish Worker's Party, also known as the PKK, executed the hostages in a cave in the Kurdish region of Iraq, sparking outrage from the Turkish government.

'The U.S. State Department issued a statement condemning the action but pointing out that the PKK's role was still being confirmed.

"We stand with our NATO ally Turkey and extend our condolences to the families of those lost in the recent fighting," the statement said. "If reports of the death of Turkish civilians at the hands of the PKK, a designated terrorist organization, are confirmed, we condemn this action in the strongest possible terms."

'Erdogan took the statement as a lack of support from the Biden administration and threatened to end the relationship between the two countries.

"Turkey has killed 42 terrorists in their hideouts, caves during the first phase of Operation Claw-Eagle 2 in northern Iraq," Erdogan said. "[If the United States wants] to continue our alliance globally and at NATO, then you must stop siding with terrorists."


 
Sounds like the curtain is coming up on the next round of the Lausanne follies.

'Turkey said on Tuesday that four Greek jets harassed a Turkish research vessel in the Aegean Sea but Athens denied the accusation, which comes as the two NATO members seek to resume talks over maritime disputes.

'The Cesme research vessel started survey work last week in international waters between the two countries, prompting Greece to protest. The Turkish defence ministry said the four Greek F-16s approached the Cesme on Monday and one dropped a chaff flare two nautical miles from the vessel.

'Defence Minister Hulusi Akar said Turkey responded with the “necessary retaliation... in line with the rules. While we are carrying out scientific work, harassment is not appropriate, it is not befitting of good neighbourly ties,” he told reporters in parliament. A Greek defence ministry official denied the accusations, saying “Greek jets never harassed the Turkish vessel.”

'After a five-year hiatus, Turkish and Greek officials met on Jan. 25 to discuss a decades-old dispute over the delimitation of maritime zones and rights to energy resources in the eastern Mediterranean. The allies have agreed to meet again in Athens. Athens said it has sent an invitation to Ankara suggesting the talks resume in early March, ahead of an EU summit. Ankara has said it wants to continue talks and improve ties with the EU, which backs Greece in the dispute.'


Turkey says Greek jets harass research vessel over Aegean Sea

'Turkish naval forces will conduct large-scale naval exercises in the Mediterranean and the Aegean Sea between Feb. 25 and March 7, the Defence Ministry said on Feb. 22.

'The exercises dubbed “Blue Homeland 2021” will involve a wide array of Turkish military assets, including 87 warships, 27 aircraft, 20 helicopters and drones. Units from the Turkish Air Force, the Coast Guard Command, and the Gendarmerie General Command will also take part in these drills. The purpose of this military exercise is to evaluate the preparedness of the headquarters, units and ships affiliated with the Naval Forces Command, it said in the statement.

'The drills will also involve training in live-fire scenarios and actively make sure of unmanned vehicles to “create real-life operational conditions,” according to the statement. Surface and air defense shots, in which high-speed unmanned aerial vehicles will be used as targets, will also be performed during the exercise, it added.'


Turkish navy to conduct massive military drills in Aegean Sea - Turkey News
 
Sounds like the curtain is coming up on the next round of the Lausanne follies.

'Turkey said on Tuesday that four Greek jets harassed a Turkish research vessel in the Aegean Sea but Athens denied the accusation, which comes as the two NATO members seek to resume talks over maritime disputes.

'The Cesme research vessel started survey work last week in international waters between the two countries, prompting Greece to protest. The Turkish defence ministry said the four Greek F-16s approached the Cesme on Monday and one dropped a chaff flare two nautical miles from the vessel.

'Defence Minister Hulusi Akar said Turkey responded with the “necessary retaliation... in line with the rules. While we are carrying out scientific work, harassment is not appropriate, it is not befitting of good neighbourly ties,” he told reporters in parliament. A Greek defence ministry official denied the accusations, saying “Greek jets never harassed the Turkish vessel.”

'After a five-year hiatus, Turkish and Greek officials met on Jan. 25 to discuss a decades-old dispute over the delimitation of maritime zones and rights to energy resources in the eastern Mediterranean. The allies have agreed to meet again in Athens. Athens said it has sent an invitation to Ankara suggesting the talks resume in early March, ahead of an EU summit. Ankara has said it wants to continue talks and improve ties with the EU, which backs Greece in the dispute.'


Turkey says Greek jets harass research vessel over Aegean Sea

'Turkish naval forces will conduct large-scale naval exercises in the Mediterranean and the Aegean Sea between Feb. 25 and March 7, the Defence Ministry said on Feb. 22.

'The exercises dubbed “Blue Homeland 2021” will involve a wide array of Turkish military assets, including 87 warships, 27 aircraft, 20 helicopters and drones. Units from the Turkish Air Force, the Coast Guard Command, and the Gendarmerie General Command will also take part in these drills. The purpose of this military exercise is to evaluate the preparedness of the headquarters, units and ships affiliated with the Naval Forces Command, it said in the statement.

'The drills will also involve training in live-fire scenarios and actively make sure of unmanned vehicles to “create real-life operational conditions,” according to the statement. Surface and air defense shots, in which high-speed unmanned aerial vehicles will be used as targets, will also be performed during the exercise, it added.'


Turkish navy to conduct massive military drills in Aegean Sea - Turkey News
From the second link . . .

Meanwhile, at least 20,000 U.S. troops, 145 helicopters and more than 1,800 armored vehicles will arrive in Alexandroupolis (Dedeağaç), a Greek port city in western Thrace, for the “Defender Europe 21” military exercise in Central and Eastern Europe within the framework of NATO, daily Hürriyet reported on Feb. 23.

The first part of the U.S. forces that will take part in the exercise will arrive tomorrow in Alexan-droupolis port on the cargo ship “Endurance.” The giant troop dispatch will be completed in seven separate campaigns by May.

Based on the “Russian threat in Central and Eastern Europe” scenarios, the exercise in which western NATO states will also participate will start in spring and will be over by mid-summer.

It will be held in Greece, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania and Slovenia.

Greece was included in the “Defender Europe” plans for the first time this year.
 
Complete change of rhetorics by Erdogan regarding France

Diplomatic tensions last year have been accompanied by a bitter personal feud between the two men.

At a meeting with European Union leaders in September, Macron commented on the Eastern Mediterranean standoff between Turkey and Greece saying: “The people of Turkey, who are a great people, deserve something else.”

Ankara slammed the comment as meddling in domestic affairs.

In October, Macron said Islam was a religion “in crisis” globally, triggering a harsh response in the Muslim world, which called for a boycott of French products.

Erdogan joined the call and said, on two different occasions, that Macron needed a mental health checkup, prompting France to recall its envoy to Turkey in October for consultations after deeming Erdogan’s speech “unacceptable”.

He also accused Macron of “Islamophobia” and urged French voters to “get rid of Macron as soon as possible".


Now what does the odious little Turk want . . . ?! :( .
 
Turkey (and/or Russia) adding some more 'spice' to the pot.

'Ankara considers buying the second regiment of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia, despite the US pressure, Head of Turkey’s Defense Industries Ismail Demir said on Wednesday. "Our work on the second [regiment] of S-400 systems continues," he said in an interview with the Turkish NTV television channel.

'Turkey is also working on reinforcing its armed forces by developing its own air defense systems, he said. "This year, the deliveries of Sungur and Hisar A+ systems will begin and the work on developing the domestic Siper air defense system continues." The head of the Turkish defense industry said on January 11 that the S-400 air defense systems delivered to Turkey were ready for activation.

'Turkey has not noticed any consequences of US sanctions imposed over the purchase of Russian-made S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, Demir stated. "We have not noticed any direct effect [from the US sanctions]. We will see the fallout from applying the CAATSA [the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act] but at present there are no clear consequences and we will wait," he pointed out. The head of the Turkish defense ministry called the US position on Ankara’s S-400 purchase incorrect. "If they think that this will dissuade us from any our national decision, then they are incorrect," he said.

'Turkey’s Foreign Ministry denounced the US sanctions and vowed to take countermeasures. As the ministry stressed, Ankara "will not refrain from measures it will deem necessary to ensure its national security." Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier stated that Washington’s intentions to impose sanctions on Ankara over the purchase of S-400 air defense systems were a manifestation of disrespect for a major NATO partner.'


Turkey considers purchasing 2nd regiment of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems
 

MissingOTC

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Turkish Cougar helicopter crashed today, 9 killed


The toll is now 11 killed. Some sources mention that general Osman Erbas, CDR 8th TUR Army, is among the victims.

The Cougar hit a mountain side in thick fog in the Bitlis area.
 
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Does a nuclear Turkey glow in the dark?

'Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on Wednesday remotely inaugurated the construction of a third nuclear reactor at the Akkuyu power plant in southern Turkey, Euronews Turkish reported.

' Erdoğan called the launch a “symbol of Turkish-Russian cooperation,” signalling Turkey’s entrance into the ”league of nuclear energy countries,” as the the pair vowed to continue their close cooperation.

'Akkuyu is the first nuclear power plant to be built in Turkey. The project is being implemented by JSC Akkuyu Nuclear, a subsidiary of Russian state nuclear corporation Rosatom, based on the intergovernmental agreement signed by Russia and Turkey in May 2010.

'Officials broke ground on the Akkuyu power plant in 2018 and the station is due to come online in 2023, the 100th anniversary of the Republic of Turkey.

'The project has drawn controversy since it was first announced in 2010, including among pundits and environmental groups, who maintain it will increaseTurkey’s energy reliance on Russia and its construction in an earthquake prone area.'


 

MissingOTC

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Does a nuclear Turkey glow in the dark?

'Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin on Wednesday remotely inaugurated the construction of a third nuclear reactor at the Akkuyu power plant in southern Turkey, Euronews Turkish reported.

' Erdoğan called the launch a “symbol of Turkish-Russian cooperation,” signalling Turkey’s entrance into the ”league of nuclear energy countries,” as the the pair vowed to continue their close cooperation.

'Akkuyu is the first nuclear power plant to be built in Turkey. The project is being implemented by JSC Akkuyu Nuclear, a subsidiary of Russian state nuclear corporation Rosatom, based on the intergovernmental agreement signed by Russia and Turkey in May 2010.

'Officials broke ground on the Akkuyu power plant in 2018 and the station is due to come online in 2023, the 100th anniversary of the Republic of Turkey.

'The project has drawn controversy since it was first announced in 2010, including among pundits and environmental groups, who maintain it will increaseTurkey’s energy reliance on Russia and its construction in an earthquake prone area.'




Not worth all the diplomatic and economic sh*tstorm that would happen if the Turks developed nukes. Erdagon cannot be that crazy.

Push comes to shove Pakistan will lend him a few.
 
Not worth all the diplomatic and economic sh*tstorm that would happen if the Turks developed nukes. Erdagon cannot be that crazy.

Push comes to shove Pakistan will lend him a few.

The diplomatic fallout would be huge. Signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and members of NATO trying to stop another member of NATO from becoming a nuclear-armed state, especially if that came with Russian assistance. which Turkey has form for using. Also,take into account Sultan Erdogan's apparent ambition - https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/t...that-turkey-cant-have-nuclear-weapons.295059/
 

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